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greetings and salutations old friends

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and hopefully some new friends and

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welcome back to truth seekers

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we begin tonight's show

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with an admission

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and an apology from me

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um because

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i believe that one is truly owed here in

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this case that we'll be talking about

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tonight you see some time ago a former

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military woman and defense intelligence

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agency employee held a a press

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conference at the washington or lincoln

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monument

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and that would be our guest tonight

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known as anjali

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there in the nation's capital

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she claimed that she met a couple at a

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coffee shop who took her to a mountain

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where she had an incredible experience

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inside that mountain

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in an apparent alien base where she met

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several different races of

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extraterrestrials or higher beings

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now we've covered that press conference

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but i was far too skeptical i was

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skeptical of everything her education

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her military service her employment

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history and even if the friends or the

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mountain that she described were

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actually real or just imagined

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now

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so wrong

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about a great many things

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after her press conference and my

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initial dismissal of most of her claims

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a few researchers and i got together and

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began really digging into her story

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first i verified her education so i was

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completely wrong about that were any

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claims that i made that her education

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was likely fake

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i was wrong her educational claims are

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100 real

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i and several others began looking for

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these anonymous sources to see if they

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were real or just her imaginary friends

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at first thinking i thought i even said

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it and i apologize for saying it now i

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said those were her imaginary friends

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they don't exist her story is fake the

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mountain is fake these people aren't

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real

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but god bless the research capabilities

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of some of the people on ufo twitter

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because with very little to go on just

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that her friend wayne was a construction

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company owner who owned a mountain

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against all odds i believe we found her

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wayne and her mountain

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now i wish i could take total credit for

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that but honestly i all but struck out

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at first i called over a hundred

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construction companies trying to speak

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to the owners and imagine that

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conversation trying to grill them on

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aliens and if they owned a mountain or

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knew anything about this anjali person

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in washington making these statements

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i was unsuccessful in finding at first a

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construction company owner who owned a

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mountain

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and again i got arrogant and started

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saying this guy doesn't exist it's her

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imaginary friend but i was wrong

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luckily other researchers were trying

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different angles and following up on

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charlie wiser and james conrad who found

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one construction company in the area

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they thought may fit then james looked

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up property records and imagined this a

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construction company owner who lived in

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the area and yes owned a huge property

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over 100 acres had a mountain on it

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charlie wiser then scoured social media

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posts and also found nick we believe

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that we have found him her friend who

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went to the coffee shop with her we can

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verify all of this much of this through

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he was friends with angeli and his

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social media post confirmed that he was

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in the area during the time frame she

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recently sent me her resume and various

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proofs of her military claims and

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she sent me proofs that these things are

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now i haven't had enough time with them

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yet and i'm no expert but in the short

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time i've had them i can say that the

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documents all appear to be legitimate

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sure that i need to do some additional

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i feel confident right now in saying

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that her education her employment

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history and her military service are

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we are all too skeptical we have seen

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far too many people come out with

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stories of this type and their

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backgrounds are fake their educations

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are fake i jump to conclusions

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i also jump to conclusions about the

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friends that she wants to remain

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anonymous they are real not imagined or

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made up so i owe her a huge apology for

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jumping to those conclusions and saying

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her background was probably fake or

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friends are probably not real

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we've seen so many frauds with fake

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military service fake education fake

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employment histories that i just assumed

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she was just another fraud in a long

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line of ufo hucksters

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i didn't even give her the benefit of

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the doubt or do my due diligence before

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saying some of the things that i said on

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a previous show and for that i apologize

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to her

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and i apologize to my audience you

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should never do research by proclamation

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and someone without doing the work

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shouldn't even open their mouth

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the truth is i put my mouth in gear

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before having any facts in hand so again

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i apologize because that was wrong of me

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now without further ado let's bring in

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our guest tonight anjali

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hi anjali

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i never thought that you and i would do

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this i never thought i would speak to

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you and i hope that you

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know that my apology and my hat in my

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hand here and my eating crow is sincere

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and i hope you understand the reasons

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why i may have jumped to conclusions

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having seen so many people with fake

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educations fake

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backgrounds i mean are you aware of just

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how many people come out with stories

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like yours and then it turns out they

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didn't work where they said they were

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they didn't have the military service

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stories are brought by people

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whose backgrounds are

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problematic at best but in your case i

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will stand here and say

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i was wrong about a great many things so

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i thought that would be a good place to

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start our talk

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awesome thank you i appreciate that

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stephen um you don't need to eat crow

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the apology is

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is enough and it's sincere and you're

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all is forgiven um i i really don't

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understand the history of the ufo

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community um and but i'm i'm learning

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i think they call it proxy by fire

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by fire because it seems that your story

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has ignited a great deal of

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controversy and and curiosity and there

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are people on both sides and i felt like

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the the skeptical side people were far

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too quick like me to just dismiss you

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and say her story is fake but the

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problem that i have now is if your

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education is real if your background is

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real if your friends that i thought

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weren't real turned out to be real if

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this mountain is real

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then why should i not give you the

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benefit of the doubt and and have a

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conversation and see what can be learned

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thank you thank you that's that's really

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all i ask for

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right so please whatever questions you

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yeah and i want to take a moment just to

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just to advise the live chat of two

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things number one i promise that we

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would be respectful of our guests

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tonight so you can ask questions you can

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discuss but please be respectful of our

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guests tonight we we don't want to ever

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be disrespectful to a guest and number

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two we normally sometimes we read all

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the super chats we're going to read them

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all after the interview because i don't

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want to interrupt this is far too

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important to stop every two minutes so

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i'll thank every single super chat at

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the end we'll read them all but for now

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we're going to dive right into the

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questions i thought i could start with

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and and again this question is with

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respect anjali but we you and i have

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and it's something that i keep coming

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your story you described meeting a

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honestly i once met a purple being and i

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also had an experience where i thought

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higher beings had taken me out of my

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body and put me back in

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but in my case it was under the

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influence of dmt and many people are

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asking about your experience and is

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there some relation to dmt because so

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is very similar to yours can you talk

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do you think that is there a possibility

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that you were dosed with the

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hallucinogen perhaps unknowingly and

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that is the cause of your experience

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we'll know soon enough

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i can't tell you

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what i experienced was or was not like

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a particular hallucination

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i know this is the biggest talk out

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there or one of the biggest have you

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ever done a hallucinogenic drug

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had um

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it's a

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synthetic

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mushroom it was

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it was developed in a lab

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um and like at a

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university you know like at a university

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lab had been purchased um

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it was what i was told was that it was a

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synthetic mushroom and it was from

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someone that i trusted very much

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um it was a powder

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kind of a a tan powder

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and did you find that hallucinogenic

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experience similar to this experience

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you're having with aliens or completely

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no

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was really disappointed because

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um other than having what i would say

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some was some euphoria with that

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synthetic with that powder that i was

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talking about um it i had some euphoria

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wow um no didn't know that um

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i what i have understood about dmt from

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just from what people have told me

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um a lot of people have suggested to me

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that perhaps when

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what i would say is the beginning of

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this stage of contact with with the

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beings um in in 2017 when i was in the

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hospital uh a lot of people were

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suggesting then that when the the woman

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who had just passed came to see me that

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i was maybe having a dnp release and me

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not knowing anything about dmt

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um i'm thinking oh okay well you know

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people say you can hallucinate maybe

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maybe that's what i was having maybe i

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had a dmt release and so i kind of went

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with it

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until after i came out on um the alien

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subreddit and um

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started looking into like the artwork

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that people have done of what they see

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when they're on dmt and i'm like stop

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the press

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that doesn't look anything like what i

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experienced like what i experienced was

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in a completely normal environment

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however

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there are some higher beings that happen

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to be standing at the end of the tunnel

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inside of the base and i'm getting a

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little confused now

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you know what i'm saying as i'm going in

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like things are feeling a little

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different

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i'm not as clear as i was a moment

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before

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um and that's when the experience of

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being

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with them began and

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i was upright i mean if i had

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if i took some

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or was dosed with with some kind of

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hallucinogen

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um

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i i would really like to know what it

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was because i

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walked up and down a mountain and was

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quite active went through a tunnel

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um i was lucid everything looked normal

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you know what i'm saying i mean there

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was nothing different except at the

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destination there actually were

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beings of another race that that i was

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about to engage with yeah and boy

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incredible story we're going to get into

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it

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this next question is is very important

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too and and this is sent from charlie

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wiser actually and i think this is one

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of the problems that i had with the

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story as well and that is

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why are you waiting three years to

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return to this cave that you

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say that you met aliens at because if it

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were me or most other people that i know

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who are so interested in this topic i

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wouldn't be able to keep myself away

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from that place i'd have to go back and

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try to get evidence or do something and

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so people are a little confused about

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why would you wait three years to return

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there

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i i can't give you an answer to that

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um i can tell you

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the

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my friends

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and my attempt to contact and

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and reach them that

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was unsuccessful um which i've already

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talked about um

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i would say that if you

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if you know anything about southern

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california it's not the kind of place

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that you go and trespass no i know about

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it yeah i've been through i've been to

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that desert in a van and it's not a fun

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place you you got to make sure that you

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have water

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or you could die it's that strange of a

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place you know it is even in the higher

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elevation you know it's still very

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difficult to find water um and

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um you know

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so

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it wasn't an area that i felt like

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look it never even crossed my mind to

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try to trespass and or to go against his

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will it was almost

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this isn't going to make sense and i

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know that i'm probably going to be

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grilled on it and

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that's fine because

389
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none of you have walked in my shoes

390
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unless you have and then this will make

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sense to you so did you have to

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negotiate with wayne to be able to come

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back i'm sorry

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it's like they just didn't want me to

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and i knew

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that i wasn't going to go back

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like i couldn't just go back because i

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wanted to

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i i toiled and toiled at home for weeks

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just desperate desperate to get back

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um

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later they came and actually visited me

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physically and i have other memories of

404
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being back in the base but i don't

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really know what happened there um

406
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so anyway i just

407
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i just need you guys to understand that

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it's not real black and white all the

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time it's pretty confusing on my end too

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yeah and one can speculate that you

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don't know what effects on the human

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brain even being in proximity to these

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beings could have that it could be there

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could be a great deal of memory

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confusion or other things

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you know and also i thought we would we

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have more common ground barbara lamb is

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part of your story and did a hypnotic

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regression for you but some people

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have found fault and problem with that

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and by the way i love barbara lamb her

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and i had a nice talk one time and we

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disagreed on many things but i love her

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she reminds me of my grandmother my

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favorite grandmother she's just awesome

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yes

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so

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but the question that i and many people

429
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have is

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if you're gonna if you've gone into this

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tunnel and you've been inside this alien

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base and you've met these aliens

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wouldn't those memories be

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vivid and immediately accessible and

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like why did you need a hypnotic

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regression to sort of organize the

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i don't know

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um

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as nebulous as it is and as unsatisfying

440
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as it is to hear

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that's part of the phenomena of the ex

442
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you know

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of

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i can't explain why

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i

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able to

447
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uncover more which really made me want

448
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to reach out to barbara because that was

449
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when i began after after i came out on

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reddit

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um that after that and i really upped my

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my meditation and my commitment

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to understanding more what had happened

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to me because at that time things were

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just really not clear and i'm not saying

456
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that they're clear now it's just

457
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there's a lot there's a lot more that i

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see but i know that there's

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a lot of mud still you know it's like i

460
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don't i can't see the bottom yeah

461
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how it goes on and on and on

462
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you know speaking of meditation many

463
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people have been very critical of your

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social media presence and interactions

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but but i know myself that being in the

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spotlight can be a double-edged sword

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and some of your internet interactions

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have been

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let's just say emotionally charged and

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difficult and i wanted to know do you

471
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regret some of the way

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that some of this stuff has been handled

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because i know that you're right now i'm

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blocking everyone that was once blocked

475
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and trying to be more transparent

476
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:36,799
that's right

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uh i am um i'm also human and i you know

478
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it's it's funny

479
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like as soon as you start talking about

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consciousness and transcendence it's

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like people think that

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that i think

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that i've already done it for

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you know and that i'm

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that i'm like preaching something and

486
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that's not what i'm doing i'm trying to

487
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share what they're saying to me because

488
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it feels pretty damn important

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and

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what if you don't want to do it you

491
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don't have to do it um it's

492
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it's a personal choice that people make

493
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they don't have to be anywhere

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but at home

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um

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so anyway

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i guess i guess what i

498
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what i wanted to really say is that

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there have been some instances

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regret

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i i golf to a higher standard than i

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hold anyone else um i'm done berating

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the heck out of myself to try to

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sit on somebody's pedestal um i'm just

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not interested i'm

506
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just having a human experience and part

507
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of it is

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you know this

509
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and

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people

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well that's fair and you know we have

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we have a lot of audience interaction

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here and and i got a question from one

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of our audience members that made me

515
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think all day it made me think all day

516
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now you've we've talked about dmt and

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sort of eliminated that as a possibility

518
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so

519
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suppose eliminated that as a possibility

520
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for what caused your experience but v

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asks for the sake of argument that let's

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say you're being truthful about your

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whole experience are you open to the

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possibility that you may be a being

525
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deceived or b

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not actually communicating with aliens

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but with a fractal of your own psyche

528
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uh no on that second part and read the

529
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first part again

530
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are you open to the possibility you may

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i am open to every possibility

532
00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:02,240
well that's very fair

533
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,679
i have no idea any more than anyone else

534
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i can tell you how it feels

535
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their presence i can

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00:25:15,029 --> 00:25:12,640
tell you

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um what it feels like when they reach

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out and

539
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communicate i

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can tell you that i

541
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i don't

542
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i've never met anyone

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personally

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um

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[Music]

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who gave so much warmth and

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had so much peace

548
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just

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being

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near them and

551
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i i don't know how that's bad

552
00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:44,240
i i look back at who i am and i feel

553
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:46,960
like i'm so much of a better person

554
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:50,159
uh than i was so much closer i guess to

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00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:52,559
being the kind of person

556
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:54,880
you know that that i'd hoped to be one

557
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:56,640
day

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00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:57,919
you think this experience made you a

559
00:26:00,950 --> 00:25:59,360
better person

560
00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:00,960
oh absolutely

561
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:02,960
absolutely is that profound and

562
00:26:06,149 --> 00:26:05,039
life-changing of an experience

563
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:06,159
oh yeah

564
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:07,760
absolutely

565
00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:09,440
it's

566
00:26:14,390 --> 00:26:13,600
experience of my life

567
00:26:17,669 --> 00:26:14,400
so

568
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:17,679
i want you i want to apologize for

569
00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:18,880
things that i said on a previous

570
00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:21,360
broadcast because i did speculate but i

571
00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:23,279
do want to ask you directly with with

572
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,279
great respect is it possible that you

573
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:27,279
have some form of mental illness which

574
00:26:33,190 --> 00:26:31,520
causes you to hallucinate or hear voices

575
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:33,200
if i have

576
00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:35,679
some sort of illness that causes me to

577
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:38,159
hallucinate and hear voices it's

578
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:40,320
something that nobody else has ever had

579
00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:43,039
or seen before i don't know

580
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:46,159
anyone who can operate from a level of

581
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:47,919
psychosis that people are trying to

582
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:50,799
suggest that i come in and out of

583
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:52,880
constantly um

584
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:54,799
and but yet i can

585
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:57,360
i can have you know lucid conversations

586
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:59,600
and i can take care of myself

587
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:00,400
and

588
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,799
yeah now having talked to you i i i

589
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:04,559
discount that possibility as well

590
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,799
because yeah you know i've i've known

591
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:08,480
somebody in my family with paranoid

592
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:11,039
schizophrenia and they they couldn't not

593
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:13,440
maintain a conversation

594
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:15,760
like you can or or speak intelligently

595
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:19,840
or articulate advanced you know thoughts

596
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:22,080
so a big question i always have to any

597
00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:24,000
experiencer then is

598
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:26,399
did you get some kind of sense

599
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:29,120
why are they here what do they want and

600
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:30,080
why

601
00:27:39,430 --> 00:27:35,909
okay um

602
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:39,440
someone just said hello steven um

603
00:27:42,389 --> 00:27:40,159
so

604
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,399
you just got a greeting um

605
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:44,399
so the higher beings are talking to me

606
00:27:47,029 --> 00:27:45,760
that's interesting just they're

607
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:47,039
acknowledging this they're saying like

608
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,399
hello

609
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,880
and um so anyway

610
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:52,000
um

611
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:52,960
they

612
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:56,320
right

613
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:03,029
they are here because they are

614
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:04,960
part of the natural

615
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:07,600
cycle of what we're experiencing

616
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:10,159
ourselves right now

617
00:28:14,070 --> 00:28:11,679
that

618
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,080
i agreed

619
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:16,320
to come here and do this and go through

620
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:18,080
these challenges

621
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:20,320
um prior to this incarnation they say

622
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:21,200
that i

623
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:25,919
i volunteered for this um that this is

624
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,919
my work that i do

625
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,520
um now

626
00:28:33,350 --> 00:28:31,440
i'm telling you that this

627
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:33,360
feels right to me

628
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:35,600
i'm not telling you that i have memory

629
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:37,120
of it being true

630
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:40,799
i just have how it feels very true

631
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:43,039
do you understand um

632
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:45,039
it's like there's this

633
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:46,799
there's this like itch

634
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:49,760
i don't know how else to explain it but

635
00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:51,600
you know i just can't quite reach

636
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:52,559
something

637
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:54,960
um and i try but

638
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,840
so they they say that they are they're

639
00:29:01,669 --> 00:28:59,440
here to

640
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:01,679
facilitate

641
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:02,640
uh

642
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:05,200
our choices at the end of this cycle

643
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:08,480
that's a very natural cycle

644
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:11,200
that comes to a natural conclusion

645
00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:12,880
um

646
00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:14,720
that

647
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:16,480
we

648
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:19,120
will be moving into a

649
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,640
like a

650
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:22,799
non-temporal

651
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:24,960
uh

652
00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:27,679
more of a shift in in the way that we

653
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:29,279
perceive

654
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:32,480
crime and how we can interact with space

655
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:36,149
um

656
00:29:40,950 --> 00:29:38,720
that this is natural as well and it's on

657
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:40,960
a cycle there they like keep showing me

658
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:43,919
like a cycle like a wheel that's moving

659
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:49,590
and

660
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:51,120
that

661
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,600
because the earth is

662
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:57,120
like

663
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:01,679
to say she because it makes me

664
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:04,399
yeah mother earth i'm good with that

665
00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:06,640
no we all talk about mother earth

666
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:09,520
but uh right or wrong

667
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:10,399
um

668
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:13,200
that like the that the earth itself has

669
00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:14,960
a density of its own consciousness and

670
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:16,159
that it is

671
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:19,919
it is itself transcending into a higher

672
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:23,200
density of light

673
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:25,520
consciousness which is essentially

674
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:28,559
they show me like um

675
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,840
it's like if you could see something

676
00:30:34,149 --> 00:30:31,679
like moving very

677
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:34,159
very quickly but so quickly that it's

678
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:39,350
you know

679
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:42,080
okay i don't really like it

680
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:43,120
um

681
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:44,880
you know i did want to ask you

682
00:30:49,590 --> 00:30:47,039
because a lot of a lot of the parts of

683
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:49,600
your story with respect again

684
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:51,600
it's kind of like

685
00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:53,279
some new age things that i have heard

686
00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:55,679
before you know higher densities and

687
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:58,480
raise your vibration this is very common

688
00:31:01,509 --> 00:30:59,519
and

689
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:01,519
uh there have been a lot of people out

690
00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:04,320
there selling ascension for years you

691
00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:06,159
could buy their courses on ascension you

692
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:08,399
could buy their books on how to ascend

693
00:31:12,950 --> 00:31:10,640
and nobody ever seems to ascend

694
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:12,960
but your thing seems to be transcension

695
00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:14,399
and i wanted to know

696
00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:16,799
what is the difference between ascension

697
00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,880
and transcension because you've

698
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:20,240
mentioned that these beings are here to

699
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:22,960
help us to transcend

700
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:26,240
and i'm a bit unclear in the difference

701
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:27,760
um i

702
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:31,360
i don't know what they mean by ascension

703
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:33,679
um it sounds

704
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:35,200
sounds very

705
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:36,399
um

706
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:38,799
judeo-christian oriented so i could

707
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:40,880
probably take a stab at it but i won't

708
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:41,679
um

709
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:43,600
take it from the rapture it's similar to

710
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:45,039
rapture where

711
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,640
the people who are out there teaching

712
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:48,799
ascension is are basically saying that

713
00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:50,720
the few people who prepare themselves

714
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:52,240
are going to be ready for this event and

715
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:54,080
they will ascend and everybody else i

716
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:56,000
don't know where they end up but it's

717
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:57,760
it's been a long-standing new age belief

718
00:32:02,630 --> 00:31:59,600
so when i heard you talking about

719
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:02,640
transcension i i just wondered is this

720
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,320
the same thing that all these other new

721
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:06,720
age gurus have discussed

722
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,399
called trans

723
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:10,480
ascension

724
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:12,960
okay first of all i'm going to unpack

725
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:16,000
the um implication which is that i am a

726
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:17,760
new age

727
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:19,120
well i apologize for that

728
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:20,640
characterization

729
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:25,760
so my apologies thank you

730
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,960
um

731
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:28,399
i

732
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:40,240
energy and

733
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:42,000
uh

734
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:43,360
and the

735
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:45,519
move they're

736
00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:49,440
they're showing like the movement of

737
00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:50,799
of

738
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,750
they're saying they did use a vibration

739
00:33:01,750 --> 00:32:57,440
and a talk of vibration that it's not

740
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:01,760
new that um it isn't a new age belief

741
00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:04,320
it's just it was

742
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:05,440
essentially

743
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:07,519
it was forgotten it's like forgotten

744
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:09,760
knowledge more than it is new knowledge

745
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:12,320
it's forgotten knowledge and

746
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:14,880
um that that's just part of the cycle

747
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:18,159
you know and the waking up is

748
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:21,840
is the transcending part it's realizing

749
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:24,159
your connection

750
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:25,440
to

751
00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:27,039
all sources of all sorts of

752
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:29,360
consciousness that

753
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,799
that there is

754
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:32,880
there is an observer

755
00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:33,840
that

756
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:37,360
you yourself you can observe yourself

757
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:40,240
um and who and what is that what is that

758
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:42,960
observer that that observer is the

759
00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:44,799
source of all consciousness it's like

760
00:33:49,269 --> 00:33:46,399
that's where

761
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:49,279
we all manifest from um

762
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:51,120
and

763
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:55,360
because it's important for

764
00:34:05,430 --> 00:33:58,480
our ability to

765
00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:05,440
it helps to facilitate our choice

766
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:07,919
about what we want to do next

767
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:09,440
um

768
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:10,960
is there anything in that that i need to

769
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:12,079
clarify

770
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,560
no i think i get it but you know uh i

771
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:16,240
guess we can move on to some others i

772
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,240
mean we should read paper if that's not

773
00:34:22,869 --> 00:34:20,399
satisfactory no i think we would get to

774
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:22,879
conscious contact a bit later too and

775
00:34:28,069 --> 00:34:25,280
some ex more deep explanation of that

776
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:28,079
because i find that interesting but

777
00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:30,079
on the on the list of questions here i

778
00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,359
have a lot of questions about things

779
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:34,000
that i have seen people be very critical

780
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:36,480
during this you're coming out and and

781
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:37,679
read it and

782
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:39,760
and and one of the things is money

783
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:41,440
because a lot of people come out with

784
00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:43,520
similar stories to you they jump right

785
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:45,440
into the money you know like let's make

786
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,200
a book a documentary let's do

787
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:49,440
conferences let's sell this

788
00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:51,280
but in your case what i found very

789
00:34:54,470 --> 00:34:52,720
interesting is that

790
00:34:55,990 --> 00:34:54,480
if you were here to make money i think

791
00:34:57,990 --> 00:34:56,000
you would give yourself more than a few

792
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:58,000
month window to provide the overwhelming

793
00:35:01,910 --> 00:34:59,920
evidence and proof you're promising

794
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:01,920
before that window closes and people

795
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:04,160
stop buying stuff because you fail to

796
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:06,560
produce the evidence but i i believe

797
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:08,240
wasn't there plans for a book in a

798
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:10,240
documentary and did you change your mind

799
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,920
about that and what is your stance on

800
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,920
the whole money thing because it's a bit

801
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:16,079
confusing some people say you're not

802
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:17,760
making a dime and you refuse to make a

803
00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:18,880
dime from this and other people are

804
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:20,720
saying no no she's selling she's going

805
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:22,400
to be selling this she had this on her

806
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:24,720
website so there's some confusion that i

807
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:26,640
thought we could both clear up so that

808
00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,160
there's more understanding here about

809
00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:30,400
the whole money situation

810
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:32,000
that's right okay

811
00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:33,359
so um

812
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:35,280
i'm really glad that

813
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:38,000
that you've had such an interest in this

814
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:41,040
because you'll probably recall um if

815
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:42,960
you've listened to that

816
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:45,359
initial clubhouse interview and the

817
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:46,800
second one

818
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:49,119
how many times i

819
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:50,720
was

820
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:53,280
prompted by several of the other people

821
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:55,040
on the speaker panel

822
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:56,960
to write a book that i had to write a

823
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:58,320
book you've got to do it that's how you

824
00:36:01,270 --> 00:35:59,839
do it it's the only way to get it out

825
00:36:02,870 --> 00:36:01,280
and i heard that interview where there

826
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:02,880
was three people telling you you gotta

827
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,200
write a book yeah constantly right

828
00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:07,200
constantly and it's not that they it's

829
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:09,520
not that they were wrong it's just that

830
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:12,720
um i didn't have a lot of other guidance

831
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:13,839
that was

832
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:17,920
step into the community um

833
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:19,040
and

834
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:22,079
oh you've got to write a book you've got

835
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:26,400
to write a book and i i was very um i

836
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,760
heard in the interview you were like i

837
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:29,119
don't really want to do that and people

838
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:30,880
are like no you have to that's the way

839
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,880
this is done and generally that is the

840
00:36:35,829 --> 00:36:34,079
way it's done somebody comes out with a

841
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:35,839
story first then there's the book the

842
00:36:41,109 --> 00:36:39,200
documentaries the conference appearances

843
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:41,119
right so i

844
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,000
um

845
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:44,400
i didn't want to write a book

846
00:36:47,990 --> 00:36:46,880
um i

847
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:48,000
can

848
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:51,280
i just was continually getting that

849
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:53,520
um counsel that that's what i should do

850
00:36:57,030 --> 00:36:55,200
and that i had to have a website that

851
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:57,040
this is just how you do it

852
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:00,400
um yada yada and not that it's not true

853
00:37:05,349 --> 00:37:03,280
it's just that that's how you do it if

854
00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:05,359
you have a particular path that you're

855
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,800
trying to be on

856
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:08,320
and that's just not the path i'm trying

857
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:11,359
to be on but i didn't understand um at

858
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:14,400
the time and so um

859
00:37:17,190 --> 00:37:15,440
uh

860
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:17,200
i

861
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:20,480
put up

862
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:21,280
and

863
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:22,400
um

864
00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:25,440
i was told before my third it was the

865
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:26,800
third appearance you have to get this

866
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:28,640
website up you have to get this website

867
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:29,280
up

868
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:30,720
you know you have to get that order form

869
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:32,800
up it's not working it's not working

870
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:33,520
and

871
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:35,599
um yeah even to the point of taking

872
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:37,599
pre-orders for a book that's not yet

873
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:40,160
written which which people found fault

874
00:37:45,109 --> 00:37:43,200
with and and honestly but i i do i

875
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:45,119
i see both sides of the issue it's

876
00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:46,880
because there's so many people

877
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:48,480
that have profited from stories and

878
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:50,800
never provided the proof but

879
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,240
like i said in your case you're giving

880
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:55,200
us a hard date that like here here's the

881
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:56,720
date and we're going to do it by this

882
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:57,760
time

883
00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:59,440
and right at first i wasn't willing to

884
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:01,440
wait either i was like no go right now

885
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:02,960
and get us the proof why do we have to

886
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:05,680
wait go get the proof if this is real

887
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:08,480
so but i'm at the point now where i go

888
00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:10,000
you know it's already

889
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:11,440
the middle of september we're going to

890
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:13,280
be in october in two short weeks

891
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:16,079
december is not very far off so it's

892
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,760
right around the corner

893
00:38:20,470 --> 00:38:19,200
there's been a lot of critics about that

894
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,480
too because in your initial press

895
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:21,920
conference you said in a week you would

896
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:23,680
release some names and so far we've just

897
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:26,880
got wayne and one other person i believe

898
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:29,760
yeah i'm not using the names um

899
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:32,240
i'm not uh not after the way that i've

900
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:36,079
been treated and um

901
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:38,640
and frankly there have been people who

902
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:40,320
are interested in being on the team but

903
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:42,320
i would like them to be on the team and

904
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:44,560
they don't want their names public they

905
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:46,400
don't want to be on camera they don't

906
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:48,079
want anybody to know

907
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,160
um they just want to be a part of the

908
00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:52,320
research and turn over their data that's

909
00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:54,079
it well i'm just throwing this out there

910
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:57,040
but i got magnetometers geiger counters

911
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:00,320
thermal cameras night vision goggles and

912
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:03,599
spelunking gear so i'm ready to jump on

913
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,240
a plane whenever you want me there

914
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,839
and i will

915
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,920
be fair and you know i'm just putting it

916
00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:11,119
out there maybe you can put me in the

917
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:13,119
twitter poll

918
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:15,119
but i want to go back to this website

919
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:16,240
because i i feel like it's really

920
00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:17,839
important um

921
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:18,880
so

922
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:19,920
the

923
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:20,400
um

924
00:39:23,910 --> 00:39:21,520
[Music]

925
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:23,920
there was never any fee attached to the

926
00:39:28,069 --> 00:39:24,720
book

927
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:28,079
never the pre-order form was up it

928
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:29,280
didn't work

929
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,880
it never worked

930
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:31,920
and

931
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:36,079
the website began getting attacked

932
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:38,880
we tried to get a more secure server

933
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:41,760
we had so many problems that we actually

934
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:42,880
had to

935
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:43,839
like

936
00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:44,960
get

937
00:39:51,670 --> 00:39:49,839
and then i just said you know screw it

938
00:39:53,510 --> 00:39:51,680
screw it i just don't even care i don't

939
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,520
want to deal with it anymore i'm not

940
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:55,680
writing the book i'm not going to do it

941
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:59,200
what i my life is not important

942
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,560
just what they're saying is what's

943
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:02,160
important and what what they're saying

944
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,599
is going to happen next is what's

945
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:05,599
important i'm sick of talking about me i

946
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:07,359
don't want to talk about it and then the

947
00:40:11,349 --> 00:40:09,280
next thing you know that darn screenshot

948
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:11,359
comes up and i said oh my god

949
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,680
and you can follow all the comments even

950
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:16,000
sure and i i misunderstood and what i

951
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:18,400
said as soon as i saw that screenshot is

952
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,720
why would you release a book in october

953
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:22,560
if you're gonna have the proof in

954
00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:24,880
december it didn't make any sense to me

955
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:26,800
so i you know i was critical but i i

956
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:28,640
understand how like peer pressure and

957
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:30,240
that is how everybody does it you write

958
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:32,079
the book you do the documentary you do

959
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:34,079
the conference appearances so maybe

960
00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:35,680
those people weren't far off and telling

961
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:37,920
you this is how you should do it but i'm

962
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:40,400
glad that you're doing it your way now

963
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:42,960
yeah i just well it's it's not that

964
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:44,400
they're doing

965
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:47,359
all the information out that they're

966
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:51,280
trying to get out and what i'm doing

967
00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:53,440
is i'm

968
00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:54,400
going

969
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:57,760
to hopefully introduce these beings

970
00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:59,280
to you

971
00:41:02,950 --> 00:41:01,680
you know walk right out eventually right

972
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:02,960
out of

973
00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:05,040
their their base

974
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:07,520
hand in hand you know i gotta tell you

975
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:09,920
when i started digging and finding a lot

976
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:11,359
of truth in some of the things that

977
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:13,440
you've said i said

978
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:15,440
what if this is real and i'm the guy

979
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:18,160
that said this is garbage and then in a

980
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:19,680
few short months i'm going to look

981
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,640
pretty silly supposed to be a researcher

982
00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:25,200
you know so but for for the benefit of

983
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:27,520
people too i want to explain something

984
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:29,040
and that is the

985
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:31,760
this mountain that we found anjali has

986
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:34,319
explained that if if his privacy is

987
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:36,640
compromised or you know the the whole

988
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:37,920
thing could be off and i didn't want to

989
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,720
be the reason that that happened

990
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:43,200
or to give you know an excuse for that

991
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:45,359
to not happen or whatever so i got in

992
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,160
this bad situation here that i have this

993
00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:50,079
information i know this woman's telling

994
00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:51,440
the truth now

995
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:53,599
and what do i do with it so just for

996
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:54,800
everybody that's

997
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:56,560
everybody's asking me to give them the

998
00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:58,480
location i'm not doing it i'm not doing

999
00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:00,079
it i'm giving her the benefit of the

1000
00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:02,000
three months or whatever whatever she

1001
00:42:06,630 --> 00:42:04,560
decides i am not doing it i'm just

1002
00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:06,640
i know how people are skeptical and even

1003
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:08,400
though i'm very skeptical and people

1004
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,760
know me and i think a lot of people

1005
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:11,760
trust me when i say this is the truth

1006
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:13,520
and and this is what i found

1007
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:14,240
there

1008
00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,319
is another show host that before i

1009
00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:18,720
talked to angeli about this i shared

1010
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:21,359
that information but that would be erica

1011
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:23,760
luke's from ufo just declassified she's

1012
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,079
sworn to secrecy she's not giving it out

1013
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:28,560
she's not telling anybody anything

1014
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,400
i'm giving her the benefit of the doubt

1015
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:32,960
here i want to see this really happen

1016
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:35,280
and and honestly i'm on the edge of my

1017
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:37,359
seat to see what happens when you go do

1018
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:38,960
this i want to see

1019
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:40,800
whatever happens i want to see a

1020
00:42:46,550 --> 00:42:44,000
conclusion to this very amazing story

1021
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:46,560
regardless of what happens

1022
00:42:52,150 --> 00:42:49,839
i think we're going to i i don't know

1023
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,160
conclusion looks like um

1024
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,400
there

1025
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:56,480
you know i i don't know

1026
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:58,960
exactly what happens after

1027
00:43:01,670 --> 00:43:00,560
they come forward

1028
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:01,680
um

1029
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:04,640
not after the team and after the

1030
00:43:09,430 --> 00:43:06,640
um evidence but

1031
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:09,440
after they come forward i

1032
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:12,240
i don't really know what that looks like

1033
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,760
i think that

1034
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:15,839
i have a pretty

1035
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:18,160
a pretty good idea but

1036
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:20,480
i don't know necessarily that it's any

1037
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:22,160
kind of insight that they've given me or

1038
00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:24,000
if it's just you know

1039
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:25,359
my own

1040
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:27,119
thinking

1041
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:29,440
so

1042
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:30,880
they can be kind of

1043
00:43:38,829 --> 00:43:35,910
how do i put this um

1044
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:38,839
where they will

1045
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,240
withhold information give it to me how

1046
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:44,240
do i say it a little bit at a time like

1047
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:45,680
you know just [\h__\h]

1048
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:48,160
yeah yes yeah

1049
00:43:50,790 --> 00:43:49,040
yeah

1050
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:50,800
that's kind of that's kind of what i've

1051
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:53,119
been going through and it's been it's

1052
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,520
can be very frustrating especially

1053
00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:57,599
um when i understand so much more now

1054
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:59,440
that i was so very clear about what i

1055
00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:00,880
understood at the beginning and i would

1056
00:44:04,150 --> 00:44:02,319
say you know people would ask me

1057
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:04,160
questions and say oh i don't know i have

1058
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:06,240
absolutely no idea and then today they

1059
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:08,800
can ask me the same question and i have

1060
00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:11,040
a very long answer for them and so

1061
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,800
people think that i'm you know that i'm

1062
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:14,400
making it up and

1063
00:44:17,510 --> 00:44:16,160
people don't understand

1064
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:17,520
how

1065
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:22,560
since i came forward and

1066
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:23,680
um

1067
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:25,440
you know yeah i mean i could see just

1068
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:26,960
from your social media posts and

1069
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:28,720
presents that you got to spend hours a

1070
00:44:32,710 --> 00:44:30,560
day just trying to

1071
00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:32,720
trying to feel questions or you know

1072
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:35,200
keep things on track and keep your

1073
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,400
mission

1074
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:38,480
uh such as as it is whatever people

1075
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:40,079
think of it it's your mission here

1076
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:42,319
moving forward and so somebody brought

1077
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:44,240
up a good point and i'm i'm gonna ask

1078
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:45,520
this question and this is a tough

1079
00:44:48,829 --> 00:44:47,680
question there's a lot of talk and there

1080
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:48,839
have been

1081
00:44:53,430 --> 00:44:51,599
historical evidence to prove that the

1082
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:53,440
united states government has at times

1083
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:56,000
sent an agent into the ufo community for

1084
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:58,240
whatever reason to spy to see what

1085
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:00,800
people are talking about to put out

1086
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:03,440
intentional disinformation so i just

1087
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:05,280
want to know you have a history of

1088
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:07,040
working for the government are you right

1089
00:45:10,550 --> 00:45:08,960
now working for the government in any

1090
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:10,560
capacity

1091
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:11,920
no i

1092
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:16,480
not only am i not but i would not um

1093
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:19,200
i

1094
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:29,440
based on some type of

1095
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:32,079
unnatural

1096
00:45:36,390 --> 00:45:33,040
human

1097
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:36,400
made concept of

1098
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:38,800
this space belongs to us and the people

1099
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:40,800
who live here are better than the people

1100
00:45:44,870 --> 00:45:43,040
who live there i just don't buy into

1101
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:44,880
anything

1102
00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:46,319
and so i don't think that there's a

1103
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:47,520
government in the world who would want

1104
00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:52,870
yeah i think that when you start talking

1105
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:55,280
about aliens that might be a problem for

1106
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:56,240
some

1107
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,079
employers right

1108
00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:00,240
only at a certain level you get to the

1109
00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:02,720
right level and there you find well you

1110
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:05,040
found out the people who are listening

1111
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:06,480
i mean this isn't

1112
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:07,920
all of this isn't happening in the

1113
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:10,640
shadows and um

1114
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:12,160
some of it's just happening just right

1115
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:14,079
before our eyes and we just we're just

1116
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:16,319
not quite catching everything i don't

1117
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:17,200
think

1118
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:20,000
and just just to just to clarify too if

1119
00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:22,560
we get back to the money situation so

1120
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:24,480
yeah like i said some people have said

1121
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:25,680
you're not going to make any money from

1122
00:46:28,230 --> 00:46:26,720
this and other people are saying no

1123
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,240
there's a book there's so what is your

1124
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:30,960
stance on making money from this story

1125
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:33,520
is are you going to do a book eventually

1126
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:34,880
or or

1127
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:38,000
some have some financial

1128
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:39,280
interest here

1129
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:40,560
with what you're

1130
00:46:43,829 --> 00:46:42,880
coming out with or are you gonna do the

1131
00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:43,839
uh

1132
00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:47,440
i don't have financial interests um

1133
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:49,359
i mean i'm not saying that i don't think

1134
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,400
about money um because honestly that's

1135
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:54,400
the reality that we're all facing right

1136
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:57,440
now right so we praise the cash here we

1137
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,670
for those that don't know with the i

1138
00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:05,760
would speculate that with the amount of

1139
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:07,920
attention that you're getting

1140
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:10,640
you could sell 10 000 books easy easy

1141
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,680
easy 10 000 books that would be quite of

1142
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:15,680
quite a financial windfall for somebody

1143
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:18,000
to get you know go buy yourself a brand

1144
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,000
new house after you make this

1145
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,400
book people don't realize that there is

1146
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:24,960
a lot of money in this stuff yeah

1147
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:25,920
sure

1148
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:30,000
i agree um and i think that um i've

1149
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:31,119
already

1150
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:34,640
matured out of a need for a pursuit for

1151
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:37,359
that um i've had plenty and i've had

1152
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:39,839
none and um

1153
00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:41,200
they're happy

1154
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,119
it's the the happiest time in my life

1155
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,599
was when i had not when i when i had

1156
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:47,200
nothing and

1157
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:49,760
i was living

1158
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:52,400
much more of a present

1159
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:53,280
um

1160
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:54,880
i'm sorry i got thrown out of my own

1161
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:57,680
show there by accident it wasn't

1162
00:48:01,829 --> 00:47:59,680
are you still talking i mean yeah no you

1163
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:01,839
were fine you're fine i i clicked when i

1164
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:03,520
should have clacked or something and i

1165
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:05,760
bounced myself out so i apologize i'm

1166
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:08,079
just glad it wasn't a major hiccup

1167
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:11,119
no um i i forgot what i was saying i'm

1168
00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:12,960
so sorry yeah we were talking about the

1169
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,559
money situation and yeah you said you

1170
00:48:19,510 --> 00:48:16,720
have a desire to make money i have no

1171
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:19,520
desire to make money on this um

1172
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:21,119
i

1173
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:29,359
money and then we're good because here's

1174
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,119
the thing angel you have to understand

1175
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:33,359
too and i'm joking here but

1176
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:35,119
it's not just you that's going to make

1177
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:37,200
money off the story it's the shows that

1178
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:38,640
you're on because they're monetized

1179
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:41,359
we're monetized here you know like

1180
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:43,839
it's not just you that has i suppose a

1181
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:47,040
financial interest you know but i don't

1182
00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:50,000
i don't have a financial interest um i

1183
00:48:53,589 --> 00:48:52,720
took that completely off the table and

1184
00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:53,599
um

1185
00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:54,319
i

1186
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:00,839
um

1187
00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:02,480
uh

1188
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:06,000
or my life my former contact

1189
00:49:09,829 --> 00:49:08,079
none of that uh the

1190
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:09,839
if i write a book you're good at writing

1191
00:49:12,150 --> 00:49:11,200
books though aren't you

1192
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:12,160
huh

1193
00:49:15,109 --> 00:49:13,440
aren't you good at writing books didn't

1194
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,119
i see somewhere that you for a time

1195
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:17,280
would ghost write books for people

1196
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:19,839
yeah um i i'm not saying that i'm not a

1197
00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:21,599
good writer i'm saying that i'm not

1198
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:23,760
interested in writing

1199
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:27,440
a book about me i'm not interested um

1200
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:30,400
if i were and this is the biggest f out

1201
00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:32,000
there if i were to

1202
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:33,599
write a book it would have to be about

1203
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:36,319
them and it would have to be about what

1204
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:38,400
they are saying

1205
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:40,559
and what's happening right now more like

1206
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,800
a keeping a record of it than it would

1207
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:44,400
be something

1208
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:46,480
that would be for any kind of monetary

1209
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:48,079
gain and

1210
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:50,240
and you can't keep something like that

1211
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:52,319
and and publish it and sell it to people

1212
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:53,920
that's just like the sickest thing i've

1213
00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,400
ever heard it would have to be

1214
00:50:02,309 --> 00:49:59,040
something that would be available

1215
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:02,319
to everyone everywhere and i'm glad that

1216
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:03,920
you said that because that's how i feel

1217
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:06,160
about people that come out and say i'm

1218
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:07,920
in contact with these higher beings or

1219
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:10,480
aliens super advanced extraterrestrials

1220
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,240
and i'm their emissary and i have a

1221
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:14,880
message from them by my book by my

1222
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:16,800
course you know because it would seem to

1223
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:18,960
me that if that information was real and

1224
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,359
so important to humanity it should be

1225
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:24,000
for everyone and not now hold on it's

1226
00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:26,160
it's it's a little difficult um because

1227
00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:29,359
of the way that society is already

1228
00:50:34,870 --> 00:50:31,680
um constructed it's really difficult to

1229
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:34,880
operate outside of that and decide i'm

1230
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:37,280
going to dedicate my life to telling my

1231
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:39,599
story and sharing my experience and you

1232
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:41,920
know um disclosure for the rest of my

1233
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:44,400
life and i'm not going to make any money

1234
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:47,200
we can't expect anybody to do that in

1235
00:50:50,549 --> 00:50:49,280
this in this world i mean that's

1236
00:50:52,710 --> 00:50:50,559
ridiculous

1237
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:52,720
i'm just in a position

1238
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:55,839
where thankfully i can do that and so i

1239
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:58,400
can take money out of it and say that's

1240
00:51:02,790 --> 00:51:00,960
not an issue for me i don't want it

1241
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:02,800
because i don't need it i don't i

1242
00:51:07,109 --> 00:51:06,160
already i'm already support so i would

1243
00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:07,119
rather

1244
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:09,359
take that any kind of financial gain off

1245
00:51:12,470 --> 00:51:10,640
the table

1246
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,480
and just say hey

1247
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,160
guys i'm this is like

1248
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,800
my purest of intentions is just to share

1249
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:19,200
with you what they're saying

1250
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,880
yeah and i i truly appreciate that

1251
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:22,480
because that takes half of the

1252
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:24,720
skepticism i have away because then i

1253
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:27,200
know it's not money motivated and too

1254
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:28,720
many of these people it's been money

1255
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:31,040
motivated you know i don't want to get i

1256
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:32,480
don't want to mention anybody but there

1257
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:34,160
are guys right now who claim that

1258
00:51:39,589 --> 00:51:37,280
they're in contact with aliens and and

1259
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:39,599
you gotta buy my course you know and

1260
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:42,640
then buy my comic book my course my dvd

1261
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:45,440
my movie and it's always on to the next

1262
00:51:50,150 --> 00:51:47,520
buy this buy this and it just seems so

1263
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:50,160
commercialized that i give no

1264
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:52,079
credibility to that person i don't think

1265
00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:53,440
they're in contact with higher beings

1266
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:55,040
because higher beings would say

1267
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:56,880
you got enough money because this guy

1268
00:52:02,549 --> 00:51:59,200
does i know this guy's got enough money

1269
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:02,559
he's made literally millions from from

1270
00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:04,480
selling stories that he talks about

1271
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:05,920
about aliens

1272
00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:08,000
while we're on aliens we got to get to

1273
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:09,280
the aliens because i got so many

1274
00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:10,800
questions about the aliens and i love

1275
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:13,520
aliens i love talking about him

1276
00:52:18,630 --> 00:52:16,079
i noticed i noticed a particular thing

1277
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,640
that was strange and that is

1278
00:52:22,790 --> 00:52:20,640
people could take this as corroboration

1279
00:52:25,349 --> 00:52:22,800
or people could take this as

1280
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:25,359
maybe plagiarism but i don't think so

1281
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:27,280
you mentioned that you perceived the

1282
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:29,760
grace to be non-biological

1283
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,400
almost receptacles for consciousness and

1284
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:34,079
i don't know if you're aware but there's

1285
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,040
a book it's it's called alien interview

1286
00:52:41,109 --> 00:52:39,359
it's by supposedly this woman named

1287
00:52:43,430 --> 00:52:41,119
matilda who

1288
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:43,440
interviewed the roswell alien and and

1289
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:45,839
she said almost exact what you said

1290
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:48,160
about biola these grays that the great

1291
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:50,880
that she interfaced with was

1292
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:53,680
non-biological almost like a puppet or a

1293
00:52:58,069 --> 00:52:56,160
doll and was a receptacle for a light

1294
00:53:01,510 --> 00:52:58,079
being of consciousness that went in

1295
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:01,520
there and worked it tell us more about

1296
00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:03,920
your perception of these grays and why

1297
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:06,160
you thought they were non

1298
00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:07,200
i'm sorry

1299
00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:08,960
read that one more time for me what she

1300
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:09,760
said

1301
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:15,200
non-biological entities almost like a

1302
00:53:20,549 --> 00:53:17,200
puppet or a doll

1303
00:53:22,230 --> 00:53:20,559
that was a receptacle that housed

1304
00:53:26,069 --> 00:53:22,240
a a

1305
00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:26,079
consciousness light being that worked

1306
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:29,119
the being

1307
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:31,359
yeah okay i would say that the only part

1308
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:34,240
about that that's any different about

1309
00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:36,079
these bodies and

1310
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,319
what she described is that

1311
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:41,200
we consider this a biological organic

1312
00:53:45,190 --> 00:53:43,680
body and our understanding

1313
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:45,200
of

1314
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:48,000
what's organic and what is biology and

1315
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:50,240
what can hold consciousness

1316
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:52,800
is only limited to

1317
00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:55,119
what we can understand in this cycle

1318
00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:58,079
okay plain and simple and i'm saying

1319
00:54:01,270 --> 00:53:58,880
that

1320
00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:01,280
there's no difference between

1321
00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:02,800
that having

1322
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:05,200
that being a non-biological

1323
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:07,200
entity holding a consciousness

1324
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:10,240
then you and me

1325
00:54:13,430 --> 00:54:11,680
and and

1326
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:13,440
i also noticed that the

1327
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:15,599
you mentioned tall white aliens and and

1328
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:17,040
i don't know if you're aware of this but

1329
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,800
the first person that i'm aware of that

1330
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:20,400
talks about tall white aliens was

1331
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:22,240
charles hall who's been largely

1332
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:24,079
discredited a lot of his military

1333
00:54:28,150 --> 00:54:26,000
background was fake

1334
00:54:30,630 --> 00:54:28,160
um but you know there's some relation i

1335
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,640
suppose to nordic aliens they

1336
00:54:34,790 --> 00:54:32,800
they look similar in some depictions

1337
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,800
were the nordics wearing clothing you

1338
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:36,559
didn't mention i don't believe that you

1339
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:38,079
talked about clothing and things like

1340
00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:39,440
that

1341
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:40,799
um

1342
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:43,839
the tall whites right right right i

1343
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:44,720
the

1344
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:51,040
we didn't really finish that

1345
00:55:03,670 --> 00:54:59,430
um so there are

1346
00:55:04,829 --> 00:55:03,680
what we would consider more biological

1347
00:55:06,789 --> 00:55:04,839
uh

1348
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:06,799
beings um

1349
00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:08,160
that

1350
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:09,440
we would

1351
00:55:14,789 --> 00:55:13,359
think kind of fit the kind of the gray

1352
00:55:17,829 --> 00:55:14,799
um

1353
00:55:18,950 --> 00:55:17,839
physique but then there are these drones

1354
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:18,960
and

1355
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:21,839
um

1356
00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:29,109
i mean it has a consciousness in it

1357
00:55:31,510 --> 00:55:30,319
um

1358
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:31,520
and

1359
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:34,480
so it's not it's not like a computerized

1360
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:36,880
life form it's not like a i or something

1361
00:55:40,950 --> 00:55:38,960
like that okay it's

1362
00:55:42,950 --> 00:55:40,960
um it's

1363
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:42,960
i don't know how it thinks you know

1364
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:45,359
because we're like in these bodies

1365
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:48,160
we're influenced um our consciousness is

1366
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:49,760
influenced by

1367
00:55:55,030 --> 00:55:52,319
our brain activity and our chemicals and

1368
00:55:57,270 --> 00:55:55,040
blah blah right so um

1369
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:57,280
we i don't know

1370
00:56:03,910 --> 00:55:58,640
what

1371
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:03,920
an influence that could be missing or

1372
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,160
you know i don't know how it's different

1373
00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:08,160
but it there has to be there has to be a

1374
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:09,680
difference there

1375
00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:11,040
i just don't know that we can

1376
00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,319
conceptualize what it is

1377
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:16,559
wow and there's been a lot of questions

1378
00:56:20,470 --> 00:56:19,280
about uh about your military service and

1379
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:20,480
people

1380
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:22,079
see again i'm in a difficult position

1381
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:23,920
because although you've sent me a lot of

1382
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,760
stuff you want me to not

1383
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:27,839
share all that stuff publicly and and

1384
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:29,760
people are very interested in your war

1385
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:31,520
veteran status

1386
00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:33,680
as far as being a gulf war veteran and

1387
00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:35,599
what i've seen is a veterans affairs

1388
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:37,359
card which you can't get unless you're

1389
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:39,359
an actual veteran so what i can say is

1390
00:56:43,829 --> 00:56:41,119
you're a veteran

1391
00:56:46,230 --> 00:56:43,839
but people like the minutia and saying

1392
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:46,240
that you're a gulf war veteran versus a

1393
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:47,839
veteran so can you talk a little bit

1394
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:48,960
about that

1395
00:56:56,829 --> 00:56:52,480
i did send you my db214

1396
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:56,839
it says that i was serving in

1397
00:57:01,990 --> 00:57:00,240
um during the first world war

1398
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:02,000
okay well that should be sufficient for

1399
00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:09,750
but but i suppose my question is you're

1400
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:10,960
willing to release some of these

1401
00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:13,599
documents to show hosts

1402
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,319
right like jimmy church i guess and me

1403
00:57:21,030 --> 00:57:18,559
why not make it easy on the research

1404
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:21,040
community that's so curious and just let

1405
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:23,280
it all out and anybody can see it

1406
00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:24,400
because from what i've seen it's

1407
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:26,079
legitimate and i don't understand the

1408
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:27,280
reluctance

1409
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,599
except maybe your own privacy i you know

1410
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:31,359
i don't know a lot of information on

1411
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:32,960
there

1412
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:34,880
that

1413
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:37,119
could very easily be used to steal my

1414
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:38,720
identity and

1415
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:40,799
you know i know who has access to that

1416
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:42,720
information and you know at least who i

1417
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:43,760
gave it to

1418
00:57:46,630 --> 00:57:44,559
um

1419
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:46,640
so and i try to

1420
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:48,640
pick trust for the people

1421
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:50,799
yeah and my my promise to my audience

1422
00:57:54,630 --> 00:57:52,880
and to everybody is that i'm gonna go

1423
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:54,640
point by point

1424
00:58:00,549 --> 00:57:56,880
and check everything that she sent me

1425
00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:00,559
but so far i i am on the side of this is

1426
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:02,240
all legitimate and this is all real i

1427
00:58:04,309 --> 00:58:03,440
still want to do some additional

1428
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:04,319
checking

1429
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:05,280
but

1430
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:07,200
you know people are asking about these

1431
00:58:10,789 --> 00:58:09,200
things and and i understand that because

1432
00:58:12,069 --> 00:58:10,799
it's it's one thing for somebody to

1433
00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:12,079
release something publicly and it's

1434
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:14,000
another thing for them to say i gave it

1435
00:58:18,470 --> 00:58:16,559
to him and and he says it's okay

1436
00:58:20,710 --> 00:58:18,480
that's right see that's what that's what

1437
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:20,720
nick larkin was doing you know

1438
00:58:23,829 --> 00:58:22,960
that was it it's just that he was he was

1439
00:58:33,750 --> 00:58:23,839
an

1440
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:33,760
provided me

1441
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:36,799
um as a gesture of goodwill his

1442
00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:37,920
information

1443
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:39,040
and

1444
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:40,720
just so people are aware nick is a

1445
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:42,880
person who on twitter has said no i

1446
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:45,119
verified her background her military and

1447
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:47,920
her employment and it and it's accurate

1448
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:48,799
right

1449
00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:51,040
and i i didn't know him well enough to

1450
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:53,599
not want to check myself but yeah that's

1451
00:58:58,230 --> 00:58:54,880
fine yeah

1452
00:59:00,390 --> 00:58:58,240
um and then you know that's okay um

1453
00:59:02,470 --> 00:59:00,400
people in intel

1454
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:02,480
and people who are veterans

1455
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:05,280
will typically um

1456
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:07,119
believe nick you know what i'm saying

1457
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:09,760
because there it's valor it's just it's

1458
00:59:14,789 --> 00:59:12,079
it's the ethics um we vouch for one

1459
00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:14,799
another and um and we have to stay

1460
00:59:19,750 --> 00:59:16,480
honest about it and

1461
00:59:21,829 --> 00:59:19,760
and he's in a position where he has um

1462
00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:21,839
he has a lot of

1463
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:24,160
a lot of honor in his life i guess and

1464
00:59:28,309 --> 00:59:26,319
so he was yeah it seems like a credible

1465
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:28,319
guy that you should trust i just didn't

1466
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:29,599
know him and i

1467
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:31,440
there's just there's a few people that i

1468
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:33,119
do know like

1469
00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:35,280
you know that i do know

1470
00:59:38,950 --> 00:59:37,359
their quality of work and his i just

1471
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:38,960
wasn't aware of so it's not a knock on

1472
00:59:43,349 --> 00:59:40,480
him i just you know

1473
00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:43,359
went i don't know him so i gotta do this

1474
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:45,359
myself and and for those who don't know

1475
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:47,200
it's grueling work to try to verify all

1476
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:48,799
this stuff because you're going to be on

1477
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:50,400
the phone all day people don't get back

1478
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:51,920
to you and that's one of the problems

1479
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,319
that i have and also with her dia

1480
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,119
experience just to clarify you were a

1481
01:00:01,190 --> 00:59:59,359
direct employee of the united states

1482
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:01,200
government for the dia and then you were

1483
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:04,400
also a contractor for the dia so that

1484
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,000
complicates things because now you need

1485
01:00:10,870 --> 01:00:08,400
twice as much verification but it looks

1486
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:10,880
like those are good and and you know i i

1487
01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:12,160
see people

1488
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:14,160
in the live chat saying you know this or

1489
01:00:16,630 --> 01:00:15,040
that

1490
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:16,640
but i think tonight is great because we

1491
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:18,640
have we have moved the ball forward on

1492
01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:19,760
your story

1493
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:21,520
because now we know that your education

1494
01:00:26,390 --> 01:00:24,720
is real we know that your dia experience

1495
01:00:28,309 --> 01:00:26,400
is real and your military service is

1496
01:00:30,549 --> 01:00:28,319
real and i think more people are going

1497
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:30,559
to do checking and and you'll get more

1498
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,640
verification of that for now

1499
01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:34,079
i've seen the documents i believe

1500
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:35,599
they're real you're just going to have

1501
01:00:40,390 --> 01:00:38,000
to wait it out because i'm sure more

1502
01:00:42,150 --> 01:00:40,400
researchers will dive in and and we'll

1503
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:42,160
find out more but it's good that the

1504
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:43,839
ball is being moved forward and now we

1505
01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:45,280
can talk more

1506
01:00:48,390 --> 01:00:47,200
just about the experience

1507
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:48,400
so

1508
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:51,200
you said how life-changing this was

1509
01:00:55,990 --> 01:00:54,240
and you're dedicating your life to this

1510
01:00:58,069 --> 01:00:56,000
some people are uh

1511
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:58,079
are are claiming that you're starting a

1512
01:01:02,230 --> 01:00:59,599
cult or

1513
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,240
you know you have this group and and

1514
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:04,000
we've we've explored the money end and

1515
01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:06,160
that's not the issue now people are

1516
01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:09,680
maybe it's just attention and control or

1517
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:11,599
narcissism whatever and you're starting

1518
01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:13,599
a cult you've kind of been accused of

1519
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:15,359
that how do you respond to people saying

1520
01:01:19,829 --> 01:01:18,079
that a lot of things that you're saying

1521
01:01:22,150 --> 01:01:19,839
bear some similarity i suppose to

1522
01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:22,160
heaven's gate or other

1523
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,359
sort of ufo cults that have sprung up

1524
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:27,359
i would say show me

1525
01:01:32,630 --> 01:01:29,359
show me the similarities

1526
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:32,640
um i don't see it i'm sorry i i don't

1527
01:01:36,470 --> 01:01:34,480
even spend time in the in my own

1528
01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:36,480
community that i started on transcension

1529
01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:38,960
project or on reddit you know i don't

1530
01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:41,440
spend time there because of ridiculous

1531
01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:43,680
claims like this that it's a cult and

1532
01:01:49,190 --> 01:01:47,200
just me just me going in and commenting

1533
01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:49,200
or posting um

1534
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:51,680
it attracts immediate negative attention

1535
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:52,480
where

1536
01:01:57,029 --> 01:01:54,720
um people will start down voting and

1537
01:01:58,630 --> 01:01:57,039
messaging the mods and it's just not

1538
01:02:01,029 --> 01:01:58,640
worth it so

1539
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:01,039
um i don't know

1540
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:03,119
of a quote that just says

1541
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:05,280
go out and explore your own

1542
01:02:08,390 --> 01:02:07,440
consciousness and you know meditate or

1543
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:08,400
pray

1544
01:02:12,230 --> 01:02:10,640
do it however you want

1545
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,240
and explore the nature of your own

1546
01:02:15,430 --> 01:02:14,559
existence um

1547
01:02:19,750 --> 01:02:15,440
and

1548
01:02:21,670 --> 01:02:19,760
you know it's like

1549
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:21,680
do it on your own steven don't come to

1550
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:23,760
my house unless you want to i mean

1551
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:25,039
you're more than welcome my door's

1552
01:02:29,910 --> 01:02:26,720
always open i don't know i would come

1553
01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:29,920
visit you anytime yes okay

1554
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:32,000
that doesn't make it a cult that makes

1555
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:33,599
me a friend

1556
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:34,960
you know i've got a lot of people in the

1557
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:36,880
live chat who don't feel i'm asking you

1558
01:02:41,109 --> 01:02:38,480
hard enough questions so i'm trying to

1559
01:02:41,990 --> 01:02:41,119
think of one and and one that i did i

1560
01:02:43,150 --> 01:02:42,000
did

1561
01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:43,160
think is

1562
01:02:47,990 --> 01:02:45,599
is probably a difficult question for you

1563
01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:48,000
to answer and i think we kind of touched

1564
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:50,319
on it but not really is

1565
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:53,760
why you because your story

1566
01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:55,680
i see a lot of similarities in others

1567
01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:57,520
that i've seen and again i apologize for

1568
01:03:01,510 --> 01:02:59,359
comparing you to others but

1569
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,520
this has been my experience so

1570
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:03,599
we've i've i've seen many different

1571
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:05,760
people come and and they make claims

1572
01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:07,440
like i'm in communication with these

1573
01:03:13,829 --> 01:03:10,480
aliens and i'm gonna bring humanity

1574
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:13,839
their message but why you why not me why

1575
01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:16,000
not some people in our live chat why not

1576
01:03:20,470 --> 01:03:19,200
wayne by himself why do they need you

1577
01:03:23,829 --> 01:03:20,480
if they're so advanced couldn't they

1578
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:23,839
just get their message out on their own

1579
01:03:27,829 --> 01:03:26,240
well a couple of things

1580
01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:27,839
number one

1581
01:03:32,470 --> 01:03:30,480
what they continually tell me is that i

1582
01:03:34,789 --> 01:03:32,480
agreed to do this

1583
01:03:37,270 --> 01:03:34,799
like a soul contract concept i've heard

1584
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:37,280
you mention yeah well i i don't know

1585
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:39,280
what a soul contract is um i don't

1586
01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:41,359
really talk about souls

1587
01:03:47,190 --> 01:03:43,920
i talk about consciousness expressing

1588
01:03:51,510 --> 01:03:49,430
i'm not saying that that that souls

1589
01:03:53,990 --> 01:03:51,520
aren't real i'm i'm just saying that i i

1590
01:03:57,510 --> 01:03:54,000
think that that's a loaded word and i

1591
01:03:59,829 --> 01:03:57,520
stay away from it um i don't really know

1592
01:04:02,549 --> 01:03:59,839
what we're talking about when we say

1593
01:04:03,750 --> 01:04:02,559
things like that but i know what i mean

1594
01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:03,760
when i say

1595
01:04:08,710 --> 01:04:07,440
consciousness expressive

1596
01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:08,720
so

1597
01:04:14,630 --> 01:04:11,599
they said that my consciousness

1598
01:04:15,670 --> 01:04:14,640
agreed to do this that this is what i do

1599
01:04:17,029 --> 01:04:15,680
that i

1600
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:17,039
come

1601
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:20,640
near ends of cycles and

1602
01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:22,880
deliver their message

1603
01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:23,920
um

1604
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:26,400
that we've worked together

1605
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:28,079
many times

1606
01:04:33,910 --> 01:04:31,920
do i know this no again no do i have

1607
01:04:35,029 --> 01:04:33,920
proof can i give you proof no of course

1608
01:04:36,390 --> 01:04:35,039
not

1609
01:04:40,710 --> 01:04:36,400
does it

1610
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:40,720
there's something about it that seems

1611
01:04:45,029 --> 01:04:43,039
really spot on and

1612
01:04:46,789 --> 01:04:45,039
and um

1613
01:04:48,789 --> 01:04:46,799
and all of this

1614
01:04:50,230 --> 01:04:48,799
begins to happen very naturally at that

1615
01:04:52,150 --> 01:04:50,240
point

1616
01:04:54,710 --> 01:04:52,160
it's it's like the more

1617
01:04:56,470 --> 01:04:54,720
that it resonates with me

1618
01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:56,480
you know the more time that i have with

1619
01:05:03,270 --> 01:04:59,760
them just the easier it is to

1620
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:03,280
to communicate on their behalf um

1621
01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:04,799
and

1622
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:07,440
so that i i think that the first part is

1623
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:09,599
that

1624
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:12,720
this is this is what i do and they

1625
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:14,799
say that everyone has

1626
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:16,160
their own

1627
01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:20,319
to be doing here

1628
01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:22,880
and they have to remember who they are

1629
01:05:25,589 --> 01:05:24,559
every one of us we all have to remember

1630
01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:25,599
who we are

1631
01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:26,960
why we're here

1632
01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:29,520
um and then a lot of those questions

1633
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:31,280
people will stop spending so much time

1634
01:05:34,950 --> 01:05:33,200
pointing at me and asking about me and

1635
01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:34,960
they'll start asking more about

1636
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:36,720
themselves um

1637
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:39,280
because why are they talking to me well

1638
01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:42,160
they're talking to everyone um so listen

1639
01:05:44,950 --> 01:05:43,440
up folks

1640
01:05:46,710 --> 01:05:44,960
that's what i'm here to tell you i'm not

1641
01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:46,720
here to tell you that i'm that i'm

1642
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:49,520
special and i'm the only one i'm they're

1643
01:05:52,470 --> 01:05:50,400
talking

1644
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:52,480
through me because i can

1645
01:05:57,589 --> 01:05:56,079
i can hear them we have this connection

1646
01:05:59,910 --> 01:05:57,599
and they want

1647
01:06:02,470 --> 01:05:59,920
all of us to develop

1648
01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:02,480
a conscious connection with one another

1649
01:06:07,990 --> 01:06:05,599
that transcends language that transcends

1650
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:08,000
races um

1651
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:09,359
that

1652
01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:12,640
maybe even transcends species i i don't

1653
01:06:16,829 --> 01:06:14,720
know consciousness can

1654
01:06:20,549 --> 01:06:16,839
communicate with

1655
01:06:21,589 --> 01:06:20,559
consciousness and if we are truly moving

1656
01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:21,599
into

1657
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:22,319
a

1658
01:06:26,470 --> 01:06:25,680
which

1659
01:06:28,470 --> 01:06:26,480
may

1660
01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:28,480
come with

1661
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:29,599
changes in

1662
01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:31,119
dimensions or

1663
01:06:34,150 --> 01:06:32,799
access to different

1664
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:34,160
time or

1665
01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:35,839
or space something's going to be

1666
01:06:40,789 --> 01:06:37,520
different i can't understand exactly

1667
01:06:42,549 --> 01:06:40,799
what i'm saying but um we

1668
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:42,559
i can see that

1669
01:06:46,309 --> 01:06:44,240
that if if that

1670
01:06:48,870 --> 01:06:46,319
if everything like that comes to pass

1671
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:48,880
then we're really going to need

1672
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:51,280
to be able to consciously communicate

1673
01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:53,280
because that's how they communicate they

1674
01:06:56,789 --> 01:06:54,960
don't speak

1675
01:07:01,510 --> 01:06:56,799
through speech like

1676
01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:01,520
they have transcended the need to speak

1677
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:03,520
i've heard of that you know

1678
01:07:07,589 --> 01:07:05,920
a question too that i had and this is

1679
01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:07,599
important is

1680
01:07:10,950 --> 01:07:09,200
have you been in communication with

1681
01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:10,960
wayne during this three years that you

1682
01:07:15,029 --> 01:07:12,480
were not

1683
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:15,039
after the experience and also you've had

1684
01:07:19,430 --> 01:07:16,960
a lot of concern about his privacy and

1685
01:07:22,150 --> 01:07:19,440
his anonymity but how

1686
01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:22,160
this question is from charlie wiser

1687
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:24,160
how does wayne expect to remain

1688
01:07:27,910 --> 01:07:26,640
anonymous or private after this proof

1689
01:07:29,589 --> 01:07:27,920
that you're going to bring don't you

1690
01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:29,599
think that this is going to be a media

1691
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:31,520
circus if it turns out that you're

1692
01:07:36,630 --> 01:07:33,680
correct

1693
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:36,640
i think that i don't speak for wayne or

1694
01:07:41,190 --> 01:07:38,160
what he thinks

1695
01:07:43,190 --> 01:07:41,200
um and i never will

1696
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:43,200
he's a very kind and

1697
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:46,160
generous human being and um

1698
01:07:48,789 --> 01:07:47,200
and so

1699
01:07:51,109 --> 01:07:48,799
is his wife

1700
01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:51,119
and i have a lot of respect for them and

1701
01:07:54,829 --> 01:07:52,400
for their wishes

1702
01:07:57,349 --> 01:07:54,839
and at this time if they can't see

1703
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:57,359
beyond um

1704
01:07:59,829 --> 01:07:58,720
disclosure

1705
01:08:01,829 --> 01:07:59,839
i'm not

1706
01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:01,839
it's not my place to make them and it's

1707
01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:03,920
not it's frankly it's not the public's

1708
01:08:08,829 --> 01:08:05,760
place to make them either you know the

1709
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:08,839
beings are are saying that that this is

1710
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:11,280
consciousness disclosure as much as it

1711
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:12,960
is going to be

1712
01:08:18,470 --> 01:08:16,799
a physical disclosure um that that we

1713
01:08:21,189 --> 01:08:18,480
are simply right now

1714
01:08:23,829 --> 01:08:21,199
unprepared for the kind of contact that

1715
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:23,839
everybody is

1716
01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:26,239
that i give them right now

1717
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:28,480
i see people's impatience so yeah i

1718
01:08:32,309 --> 01:08:30,719
understand people are very impatient

1719
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:32,319
have you been in contact with wayne in

1720
01:08:36,870 --> 01:08:34,319
the past three years and

1721
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:36,880
he is aware of of this expedition and

1722
01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:38,719
what you're doing on the internet and

1723
01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:40,960
and all of this stuff correct

1724
01:08:46,870 --> 01:08:44,080
i have been in contact with wayne more

1725
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:46,880
recently um the time when i said that i

1726
01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:48,400
had not been in contact with wayne that

1727
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:49,440
was correct

1728
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:50,319
um

1729
01:08:54,149 --> 01:08:52,480
and now it's changed and yes i have been

1730
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:54,159
in contact with him and that's really

1731
01:08:57,510 --> 01:08:56,480
all that i have to say about wayne i

1732
01:08:59,669 --> 01:08:57,520
really

1733
01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:59,679
i would just prefer not to discuss that

1734
01:09:01,590 --> 01:09:00,719
too much

1735
01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:01,600
so

1736
01:09:05,910 --> 01:09:03,600
okay well let's get back to the alien

1737
01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:05,920
and the aliens in the alien experience

1738
01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:07,520
you you've described this thing called

1739
01:09:11,990 --> 01:09:09,759
conscious communication which to me and

1740
01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:12,000
you're here correct me if i'm wrong

1741
01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:13,279
appeared to be

1742
01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:16,000
sort of a form of mental telepathy but

1743
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:18,080
it also included the communication of

1744
01:09:22,789 --> 01:09:21,199
emotions and memories and experiences

1745
01:09:24,550 --> 01:09:22,799
can you talk more about how they

1746
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:24,560
communicated with you through this thing

1747
01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:27,440
that you call conscious contact that's

1748
01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:28,799
right okay

1749
01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:30,319
yeah you described it really well

1750
01:09:32,829 --> 01:09:31,199
actually

1751
01:09:35,590 --> 01:09:32,839
um

1752
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:35,600
so okay it's definitely more than

1753
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:37,920
telepathy because it isn't just reading

1754
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:40,400
moments first of all you're not reading

1755
01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:43,520
another mind um you are

1756
01:09:47,749 --> 01:09:46,719
you're in a flow with consciousness okay

1757
01:09:49,349 --> 01:09:47,759
so there

1758
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:49,359
there is a

1759
01:09:52,390 --> 01:09:51,120
already just in

1760
01:09:55,350 --> 01:09:52,400
um

1761
01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:55,360
if you approach it as telepathy you're

1762
01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:57,440
kind of starting off on a foot that's

1763
01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:58,800
just going to make it more difficult for

1764
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:00,480
you because this really is about

1765
01:10:08,070 --> 01:10:03,520
expanding your consciousness rather than

1766
01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:08,080
um having a a power to do something okay

1767
01:10:13,030 --> 01:10:11,830
so

1768
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:13,040
when

1769
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:18,159
it's like a picture that comes through

1770
01:10:20,630 --> 01:10:19,679
it's like an image

1771
01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:20,640
um

1772
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:21,760
and it has

1773
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:24,000
you know i've explained it so many times

1774
01:10:29,270 --> 01:10:26,400
but it has like all of this encoded

1775
01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:29,280
information okay but it's an image

1776
01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:32,320
and you get the intention

1777
01:10:37,350 --> 01:10:34,880
um the emotional state

1778
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:37,360
of the sender

1779
01:10:41,110 --> 01:10:38,960
and then any information that they're

1780
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:41,120
trying to communicate to you

1781
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:42,640
and it's

1782
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:44,880
it's really it's it's

1783
01:10:49,350 --> 01:10:46,320
much richer

1784
01:10:51,830 --> 01:10:49,360
and more direct than

1785
01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:51,840
than our spoken language we

1786
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:52,960
really

1787
01:10:57,430 --> 01:10:54,719
uh

1788
01:10:59,270 --> 01:10:57,440
language divides us in

1789
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:59,280
a way that is

1790
01:11:01,750 --> 01:11:00,320
uh

1791
01:11:02,790 --> 01:11:01,760
that has hampered our conscious

1792
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:02,800
development

1793
01:11:07,590 --> 01:11:05,520
uh as a race here and they are trying to

1794
01:11:10,709 --> 01:11:07,600
remove that barrier

1795
01:11:13,750 --> 01:11:10,719
and get us into

1796
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:13,760
the consciousness experience itself out

1797
01:11:17,750 --> 01:11:14,800
of this

1798
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:17,760
this idea that language is you know the

1799
01:11:22,470 --> 01:11:19,840
primary way of communication

1800
01:11:25,189 --> 01:11:22,480
that there's actually a much

1801
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:25,199
a much more advanced

1802
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:26,960
communication

1803
01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:28,960
ability right it's just right there it's

1804
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:31,280
like an atrophied muscle that everyone

1805
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:33,840
has everyone has the ability to do it

1806
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:34,640
um

1807
01:11:37,510 --> 01:11:35,840
there's they're saying that they're

1808
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:37,520
saying that it's just like

1809
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:38,960
like um

1810
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:41,040
like we've just been asleep for a really

1811
01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:42,880
long time and so we're waking up and we

1812
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:44,159
you know we're kind of stretching we're

1813
01:11:48,630 --> 01:11:46,320
not jumping out of bed and going off to

1814
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:48,640
run a marathon after we've been you know

1815
01:11:51,510 --> 01:11:50,560
in a coma for you know 20 years or

1816
01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:51,520
whatever

1817
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:52,719
you know you have to get out of bed

1818
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:54,400
slowly and and

1819
01:11:58,229 --> 01:11:55,679
so it's kind of like we're in like a

1820
01:12:00,310 --> 01:11:58,239
consciousness rehab right now and like

1821
01:12:01,990 --> 01:12:00,320
everybody's waking up and starting to

1822
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:02,000
step out of bed and stretch it a little

1823
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:04,320
bit and and that's what that's what this

1824
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,000
is about

1825
01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:08,960
wow and so did you get a sense of

1826
01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:10,400
of

1827
01:12:15,189 --> 01:12:12,560
why are they in a mountain on your

1828
01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:15,199
friend's property because this is a this

1829
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:17,199
and and again with respect i just i

1830
01:12:20,390 --> 01:12:18,960
thought a lot about that and if i was an

1831
01:12:22,390 --> 01:12:20,400
alien race

1832
01:12:24,390 --> 01:12:22,400
i guess to remain hidden underground

1833
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:24,400
would be a good place but that was also

1834
01:12:28,870 --> 01:12:26,640
one of the reasons that i was skeptical

1835
01:12:31,270 --> 01:12:28,880
of your story because we have

1836
01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:31,280
stuff in ufo mythology for years about

1837
01:12:35,350 --> 01:12:32,880
aliens in an underground base in

1838
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:35,360
antarctica or in dolce bass

1839
01:12:41,910 --> 01:12:37,920
why would they put their base inside a

1840
01:12:43,910 --> 01:12:41,920
mountain did you get any sense or or

1841
01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:43,920
ideas about that from them

1842
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:46,080
well

1843
01:12:50,500 --> 01:12:48,960
they're i don't know why they're in

1844
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:50,510
there um

1845
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:52,159
[Music]

1846
01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:54,159
they've been in there what they say is

1847
01:12:57,910 --> 01:12:55,440
that they're they've

1848
01:12:59,030 --> 01:12:57,920
they've been there for a long time like

1849
01:13:01,110 --> 01:12:59,040
before

1850
01:13:02,229 --> 01:13:01,120
people were owning the mountain

1851
01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:02,239
they

1852
01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:04,719
there's something about the area

1853
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:07,040
um

1854
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:08,560
and i don't really understand i don't

1855
01:13:10,709 --> 01:13:09,600
really understand what they're saying i

1856
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:10,719
don't know if they're saying that it's

1857
01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:15,280
it's a it's a geological thing um

1858
01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:16,880
that's why

1859
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,280
they're there or

1860
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:21,120
i'm not i don't really understand but

1861
01:13:26,310 --> 01:13:22,800
there's some they're showing something

1862
01:13:28,630 --> 01:13:26,320
about the geology maybe a

1863
01:13:30,709 --> 01:13:28,640
magnetic field

1864
01:13:32,149 --> 01:13:30,719
field

1865
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:32,159
something that's different it's just a

1866
01:13:38,149 --> 01:13:35,760
little different there and um

1867
01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:38,159
and so that's why that's why they're in

1868
01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:41,360
that particular place but they have

1869
01:13:44,870 --> 01:13:43,760
i i think that we underestimate

1870
01:13:50,390 --> 01:13:44,880
the

1871
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:50,400
inhabiting

1872
01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:52,239
quite frankly

1873
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,239
that's very interesting did you get a

1874
01:13:57,350 --> 01:13:56,480
sense of how long they have been there

1875
01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:57,360
in that

1876
01:14:03,750 --> 01:13:59,840
when did they build the base or how did

1877
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,550
this

1878
01:14:09,270 --> 01:14:07,750
while it is

1879
01:14:10,870 --> 01:14:09,280
what it is a

1880
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:10,880
physical

1881
01:14:18,550 --> 01:14:15,760
okay in that inside that mountain but

1882
01:14:20,790 --> 01:14:18,560
that when you move from the tunnel

1883
01:14:23,350 --> 01:14:20,800
into the base

1884
01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:23,360
that you transition from

1885
01:14:29,430 --> 01:14:26,640
one place to the other the here but then

1886
01:14:31,030 --> 01:14:29,440
not here it's that's it's like and i

1887
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:31,040
don't know if that's i don't want to say

1888
01:14:34,390 --> 01:14:32,880
the wrong things like i said mag you

1889
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:34,400
know magnetic field and i'm probably you

1890
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:36,239
know people can rule on it there's no

1891
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:38,400
magnetic fields there yeah we checked

1892
01:14:42,149 --> 01:14:40,560
yeah oh i'm not a scientist i'm just

1893
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:42,159
trying to explain that there's something

1894
01:14:45,110 --> 01:14:44,000
different going on there

1895
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:45,120
and

1896
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:50,640
that they inhabit

1897
01:14:54,709 --> 01:14:53,920
a visit they have a physical presence

1898
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:54,719
that

1899
01:14:59,750 --> 01:14:57,360
they can

1900
01:15:02,229 --> 01:14:59,760
i don't know why

1901
01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:02,239
they've been there for a very long time

1902
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:03,520
that's what they're just saying they've

1903
01:15:09,270 --> 01:15:06,480
been there for a very long time

1904
01:15:10,709 --> 01:15:09,280
okay well that's that's fair enough did

1905
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:10,719
did you get any

1906
01:15:15,750 --> 01:15:12,960
sense from being inside this base of

1907
01:15:18,070 --> 01:15:15,760
what materials it was made of or

1908
01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:18,080
how it was constructed or

1909
01:15:28,950 --> 01:15:26,470
i can say that there were very smooth

1910
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:28,960
edges like i just don't remember

1911
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:31,840
anything sharp and like sharp corners

1912
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:33,360
and

1913
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:36,640
it was very uh very smooth very sterile

1914
01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:39,600
a sphere i guess i would say um yeah

1915
01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:41,040
i've heard you describe it clinical

1916
01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:42,960
right it was like yeah clinical like a

1917
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:45,040
hospital plane

1918
01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:47,760
no creativity which is odd that that

1919
01:15:51,030 --> 01:15:49,679
struck me as odd if they're super

1920
01:15:54,149 --> 01:15:51,040
advanced beings i would think they'd be

1921
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:54,159
very artistic or creative maybe

1922
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:55,760
right but that's speculation of course i

1923
01:15:58,630 --> 01:15:56,880
mean

1924
01:15:59,750 --> 01:15:58,640
yes um

1925
01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:59,760
you know

1926
01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:01,199
i don't know if you've ever been inside

1927
01:16:09,189 --> 01:16:07,110
i had a brain aneurysm so i've been in a

1928
01:16:10,149 --> 01:16:09,199
i've been in an operating room plenty

1929
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:10,159
okay

1930
01:16:13,830 --> 01:16:11,840
so you know that there's not a lot of

1931
01:16:16,470 --> 01:16:13,840
artwork hanging up in an operating room

1932
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:16,480
no pretty pretty boring yeah just more

1933
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:19,199
area for dust to collect and it becomes

1934
01:16:22,950 --> 01:16:22,000
more difficult to keep it clean um

1935
01:16:25,590 --> 01:16:22,960
i'm

1936
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:25,600
there was a clinical sterility about the

1937
01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:26,960
place

1938
01:16:32,550 --> 01:16:30,239
that makes me feel like it may be um at

1939
01:16:35,669 --> 01:16:32,560
least where i was that i was inside of a

1940
01:16:37,990 --> 01:16:35,679
like a medical part of it it was very

1941
01:16:39,990 --> 01:16:38,000
clean it wasn't

1942
01:16:41,910 --> 01:16:40,000
there wasn't artistic expression it

1943
01:16:43,350 --> 01:16:41,920
didn't feel like that was the point i

1944
01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:43,360
didn't feel like i was in a

1945
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:45,600
museum or a coffee house there you know

1946
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:47,760
i'm inside of like

1947
01:16:51,350 --> 01:16:49,760
everything's smooth

1948
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:51,360
and

1949
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:55,840
maybe like it was maybe molded

1950
01:16:59,189 --> 01:16:57,600
like injection molded

1951
01:17:01,430 --> 01:16:59,199
no corners no

1952
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:01,440
no rivets no

1953
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:03,440
joiners or fasteners

1954
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:04,960
that's right i didn't see anything like

1955
01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:06,080
that in fact

1956
01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:09,040
moving from from the rock of the tunnel

1957
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:10,560
into the base

1958
01:17:15,910 --> 01:17:13,679
i cannot see like i've i've tried and

1959
01:17:18,149 --> 01:17:15,920
tried and tried and i just can't see

1960
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:18,159
anything

1961
01:17:22,790 --> 01:17:20,800
that looks like it make that

1962
01:17:25,430 --> 01:17:22,800
you know like it's a physical transition

1963
01:17:27,189 --> 01:17:25,440
like you would expect like a door like a

1964
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:27,199
pocket door that's going to slide

1965
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:28,880
clothes behind me or something people

1966
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:30,560
have been very critical of that saying

1967
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:32,640
she got that from star trek but there's

1968
01:17:36,229 --> 01:17:34,640
a hundred examples you described a door

1969
01:17:38,390 --> 01:17:36,239
that slid open

1970
01:17:41,430 --> 01:17:38,400
sort of like star trek and you know i

1971
01:17:44,229 --> 01:17:41,440
think sometimes people nitpick things

1972
01:17:46,790 --> 01:17:44,239
and and i do too i do too i caught that

1973
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:46,800
and went like oh like star trek or like

1974
01:17:50,950 --> 01:17:48,640
star trek doors go to the grocery store

1975
01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:50,960
and you step on you know whatever you do

1976
01:17:54,870 --> 01:17:53,360
and the door opens i mean

1977
01:17:56,229 --> 01:17:54,880
you have so many examples of automatic

1978
01:17:58,550 --> 01:17:56,239
doors i don't know why that would be the

1979
01:18:00,870 --> 01:17:58,560
hang up i mean it seems like it seems a

1980
01:18:03,590 --> 01:18:00,880
little silly but did you get some sense

1981
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:03,600
of why multiple races of aliens would be

1982
01:18:06,790 --> 01:18:05,040
cooperating

1983
01:18:07,750 --> 01:18:06,800
in building a base

1984
01:18:12,790 --> 01:18:07,760
and

1985
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,800
get a sense of how they come here how

1986
01:18:17,510 --> 01:18:14,800
did they get here

1987
01:18:19,270 --> 01:18:17,520
i didn't see any kind of craft

1988
01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:19,280
i don't remember

1989
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:22,480
any of their craft like when

1990
01:18:26,790 --> 01:18:25,199
when i've seen them like since

1991
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:26,800
the day that i was there in their base

1992
01:18:31,830 --> 01:18:29,920
when they when they came to my house

1993
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:31,840
um

1994
01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:33,360
i don't remember

1995
01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:35,520
i remember other i other times of being

1996
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:36,719
at the base but i don't remember like a

1997
01:18:40,950 --> 01:18:39,520
crafter okay it's what i'm trying to say

1998
01:18:46,229 --> 01:18:40,960
um

1999
01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:48,950
it but the

2000
01:18:54,229 --> 01:18:51,600
the doors seem they were a different

2001
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:54,239
color first of all then the rest like

2002
01:18:58,470 --> 01:18:57,280
the walls and the floors were all

2003
01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:58,480
the same

2004
01:19:02,070 --> 01:18:59,840
they were like

2005
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:02,080
like a creamy

2006
01:19:06,149 --> 01:19:03,600
tannish

2007
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:06,159
smooth surface

2008
01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:08,080
i didn't touch it so i can't tell you

2009
01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:10,159
exactly what it was but

2010
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:14,000
it was incredibly smooth and then

2011
01:19:18,070 --> 01:19:16,400
the the door was like a you know

2012
01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:18,080
metallic color

2013
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:18,880
um

2014
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:21,760
the floor in the other room was more

2015
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:23,600
metallic and it came

2016
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:25,440
the room that i stood up to

2017
01:19:29,830 --> 01:19:27,600
and then the the table that came up out

2018
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:29,840
of the floor you know it came up it was

2019
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:32,800
it was silver there was it was silver

2020
01:19:37,750 --> 01:19:35,920
like the the ground the table coming

2021
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:37,760
well that's very interesting and i'm

2022
01:19:42,630 --> 01:19:40,560
glad to get some more detail from you

2023
01:19:44,709 --> 01:19:42,640
now i do have a couple of questions i

2024
01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:44,719
realize anjali and this is very

2025
01:19:48,550 --> 01:19:46,960
important i just want to recognize this

2026
01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:48,560
i applaud your courage for coming here

2027
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:49,920
and answering all these questions

2028
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:51,520
because people know i'm very skeptical

2029
01:19:54,310 --> 01:19:53,040
and there's other skeptical hosts that

2030
01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:54,320
are sending me questions because they

2031
01:19:58,870 --> 01:19:56,640
don't feel that you'll go on their show

2032
01:20:01,110 --> 01:19:58,880
so i wanted to be gracious and give an

2033
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:01,120
opportunity for questions from a few

2034
01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:03,360
other show hosts so i have one very good

2035
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:05,520
question from scott brown

2036
01:20:10,870 --> 01:20:07,920
and he says that you have mentioned the

2037
01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:10,880
aliens visiting you at your home

2038
01:20:15,189 --> 01:20:13,120
and that you were in this alien base for

2039
01:20:16,709 --> 01:20:15,199
six hours using your cell phone as a

2040
01:20:19,030 --> 01:20:16,719
flashlight but you didn't think to take

2041
01:20:21,910 --> 01:20:19,040
any pictures so why would you not take

2042
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:21,920
pictures in the alien base for six hours

2043
01:20:25,510 --> 01:20:24,320
and then if you are having these

2044
01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:25,520
physical

2045
01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:27,280
interactions with aliens at your home

2046
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:30,400
why would you not take pictures and

2047
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:33,360
use that for evidence and proof

2048
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:36,400
um first of all when i didn't have my

2049
01:20:40,550 --> 01:20:38,320
phone out for six hours using it as a

2050
01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:40,560
flashlight that was only while i was in

2051
01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:43,120
the towel i have no recollection of ever

2052
01:20:47,270 --> 01:20:45,040
putting it back in my pocket but that's

2053
01:20:50,149 --> 01:20:47,280
where i found it um

2054
01:20:51,830 --> 01:20:50,159
and i can't i can't explain that to to

2055
01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:51,840
anyone and that doesn't mean that i'm

2056
01:20:55,669 --> 01:20:53,520
lying it means that

2057
01:20:56,390 --> 01:20:55,679
i can't explain that i don't i don't

2058
01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:56,400
know

2059
01:20:59,510 --> 01:20:57,520
um

2060
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:59,520
my sense is that

2061
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:01,600
they are in control of that that i

2062
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:03,040
didn't have a choice

2063
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:04,000
um

2064
01:21:07,510 --> 01:21:05,600
and how is that different

2065
01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:07,520
or when we go back well because they're

2066
01:21:11,510 --> 01:21:09,120
saying that

2067
01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:11,520
now is the time for disclosure and

2068
01:21:16,470 --> 01:21:14,800
so they will provide that evidence

2069
01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:16,480
and what about those visiting your home

2070
01:21:21,110 --> 01:21:18,000
they won't let you take pictures of them

2071
01:21:22,790 --> 01:21:21,120
or films or

2072
01:21:26,830 --> 01:21:22,800
no

2073
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:26,840
go back to the base yes

2074
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:28,400
absolutely

2075
01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:32,320
in fact what they're saying is that

2076
01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:36,470
that

2077
01:21:40,950 --> 01:21:38,080
you're talking to the you're telling me

2078
01:21:43,510 --> 01:21:40,960
that you're talking to aliens right now

2079
01:21:44,470 --> 01:21:43,520
well look i'm gonna get a lot of crap

2080
01:21:46,390 --> 01:21:44,480
for this

2081
01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:46,400
no it's okay i just want to be clear

2082
01:21:51,270 --> 01:21:48,880
because i i'm looking for me they really

2083
01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:51,280
they don't like i i've used it in the

2084
01:21:55,430 --> 01:21:52,960
past um

2085
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:55,440
and i use it when when just quoting a

2086
01:21:59,910 --> 01:21:57,600
conversation but they say that that

2087
01:22:01,750 --> 01:21:59,920
aliens is a slur

2088
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:01,760
i saw that so i apologize what should i

2089
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:04,639
refer to them as higher beings or beings

2090
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:06,480
you know just beings just whatever

2091
01:22:10,950 --> 01:22:08,400
you're comfortable with that's just you

2092
01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:10,960
know people is fine too

2093
01:22:14,310 --> 01:22:12,960
they are just they're different people

2094
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:14,320
than we are

2095
01:22:18,310 --> 01:22:16,960
um but yes so

2096
01:22:20,149 --> 01:22:18,320
uh

2097
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:20,159
like i said is it true i've heard people

2098
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:22,320
say so they consider alien like a racist

2099
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:23,520
term

2100
01:22:25,910 --> 01:22:24,480
yes

2101
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:25,920
okay because

2102
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:27,600
there's a lot of human connotation with

2103
01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:29,040
it it's it's

2104
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:32,080
we've we created the term we

2105
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:34,960
created a lot of imagery around it um

2106
01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:36,880
and we use it

2107
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:40,159
um you know we have a very

2108
01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:42,320
divisive stand

2109
01:22:46,950 --> 01:22:44,880
regarding what that means when we start

2110
01:22:48,790 --> 01:22:46,960
talking about nations and borders and

2111
01:22:51,110 --> 01:22:48,800
there's just there's just not a

2112
01:22:53,750 --> 01:22:51,120
situation where it has a positive

2113
01:22:55,030 --> 01:22:53,760
connotation and and they're trying they

2114
01:22:56,310 --> 01:22:55,040
just want

2115
01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:56,320
all of us to

2116
01:23:01,110 --> 01:22:58,000
to use less

2117
01:23:02,629 --> 01:23:01,120
less of divisive language less divisive

2118
01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:02,639
thinking and

2119
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:04,560
to think more

2120
01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:06,880
collectively about um

2121
01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:08,239
you know how to

2122
01:23:12,070 --> 01:23:10,159
treat each other like this

2123
01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:12,080
well that's that's fair enough and i and

2124
01:23:15,189 --> 01:23:12,960
i had

2125
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:15,199
again from scott brown and and he's been

2126
01:23:18,550 --> 01:23:16,880
very critical of you on twitter and so

2127
01:23:20,790 --> 01:23:18,560
have many other people so i appreciate

2128
01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:20,800
that you're willing listen some people

2129
01:23:25,030 --> 01:23:22,480
just won't answer questions or they'll

2130
01:23:28,149 --> 01:23:25,040
do the the the thing where they block

2131
01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:28,159
everybody out of existence and then they

2132
01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:29,920
live in an echo chamber so nobody gets

2133
01:23:33,189 --> 01:23:31,440
to ask questions

2134
01:23:35,030 --> 01:23:33,199
and and one of the reasons that i have

2135
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:35,040
some respect for you angeli is because

2136
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:36,960
you're sort of turning the corner and

2137
01:23:41,830 --> 01:23:39,120
saying i'll i'll answer the questions

2138
01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:41,840
right and and that is very brave thing

2139
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:42,960
to do

2140
01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:45,280
and and it makes me believe that you're

2141
01:23:48,950 --> 01:23:46,560
telling the truth about much of your

2142
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:48,960
story and at least you believe that the

2143
01:23:51,669 --> 01:23:50,719
experience was real

2144
01:23:53,669 --> 01:23:51,679
so

2145
01:23:55,669 --> 01:23:53,679
um

2146
01:23:57,669 --> 01:23:55,679
scott also asked if they teleported

2147
01:23:59,590 --> 01:23:57,679
wayne back into his living room multiple

2148
01:24:01,510 --> 01:23:59,600
times why would he need to excavate a

2149
01:24:03,669 --> 01:24:01,520
tunnel into the mountain and if it's a

2150
01:24:05,590 --> 01:24:03,679
secret base and they don't want anybody

2151
01:24:07,750 --> 01:24:05,600
to know about it why would they allow

2152
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:07,760
him to excavate a tunnel into the side

2153
01:24:11,910 --> 01:24:10,000
of their base

2154
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:11,920
well clearly um

2155
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:13,760
they knew what they were doing because

2156
01:24:18,070 --> 01:24:16,880
he did excavate a tunnel and i went

2157
01:24:20,790 --> 01:24:18,080
inside of it

2158
01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:20,800
and walked into their base so why did he

2159
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:22,800
do that because they clearly wanted him

2160
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:23,520
to

2161
01:24:26,790 --> 01:24:25,040
um why

2162
01:24:28,709 --> 01:24:26,800
are

2163
01:24:31,350 --> 01:24:28,719
why didn't anyone

2164
01:24:33,750 --> 01:24:31,360
find out about it because they didn't

2165
01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:33,760
want anyone to find out about it

2166
01:24:38,310 --> 01:24:35,600
um i don't think that we really

2167
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:38,320
understand what we're dealing with

2168
01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:39,440
i have to tell you that one of the

2169
01:24:43,510 --> 01:24:41,600
things that that they said that i still

2170
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:43,520
haven't i don't

2171
01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:45,280
i don't have a grip on it like i would

2172
01:24:50,149 --> 01:24:47,040
like to is

2173
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:52,149
what you think is going on here isn't

2174
01:25:00,629 --> 01:24:58,550
and that that has stuck with me

2175
01:25:02,070 --> 01:25:00,639
and it's why you know everybody thinks

2176
01:25:03,830 --> 01:25:02,080
that you know i'm so positive about

2177
01:25:07,350 --> 01:25:03,840
everything

2178
01:25:09,669 --> 01:25:07,360
i have been told flat out that what

2179
01:25:11,350 --> 01:25:09,679
we think is going on is not what is

2180
01:25:12,390 --> 01:25:11,360
happening here

2181
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:12,400
and

2182
01:25:15,430 --> 01:25:13,199
that

2183
01:25:18,709 --> 01:25:15,440
through this consciousness

2184
01:25:20,229 --> 01:25:18,719
awakening that we have we will begin

2185
01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:20,239
to see

2186
01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:22,239
what's really going on

2187
01:25:26,709 --> 01:25:24,880
um and

2188
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:26,719
i don't

2189
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:28,080
i'm along for the ride just like

2190
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:31,199
everybody else is here

2191
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:32,800
i'm having you know the same human

2192
01:25:36,629 --> 01:25:35,040
experience everybody else's

2193
01:25:38,310 --> 01:25:36,639
well it's slightly different because

2194
01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:38,320
you're actually claiming to be in

2195
01:25:43,669 --> 01:25:41,360
contact with the aliens in multiple ways

2196
01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:43,679
right i mean you're having this

2197
01:25:48,229 --> 01:25:46,000
conscious contact sort of mind-meld

2198
01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:48,239
experiences and pardon the term again i

2199
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:49,679
know that might not be accurate and then

2200
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:52,239
also you're physically interacting with

2201
01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:54,400
the alien beings visiting you

2202
01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:56,560
that's right that's right

2203
01:26:02,310 --> 01:26:00,950
oh i'm sorry i had an excellent question

2204
01:26:04,310 --> 01:26:02,320
again from another show host rich

2205
01:26:06,470 --> 01:26:04,320
giordano from goofon

2206
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:06,480
um and and this made me think a long

2207
01:26:09,669 --> 01:26:08,320
time today when i heard this question so

2208
01:26:10,870 --> 01:26:09,679
i wanted to make sure that i get it in

2209
01:26:12,310 --> 01:26:10,880
and again he's one of those people that

2210
01:26:14,229 --> 01:26:12,320
may never get to interview you we want

2211
01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:14,239
to be gracious and try to bring more

2212
01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:15,760
people from the community to ask you

2213
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:17,199
these great questions

2214
01:26:21,430 --> 01:26:19,520
rich brought up a great point he said

2215
01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:21,440
many have promised but no one has ever

2216
01:26:25,510 --> 01:26:23,760
brought proof of aliens to the world

2217
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:25,520
does she really believe she will be able

2218
01:26:29,030 --> 01:26:27,360
to do this and how will she avoid the

2219
01:26:30,950 --> 01:26:29,040
government shutting her down and by

2220
01:26:33,990 --> 01:26:30,960
shutting her down i mean shutting her

2221
01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:34,000
down forever maybe killing her

2222
01:26:36,790 --> 01:26:35,600
do you think you might be in danger and

2223
01:26:38,390 --> 01:26:36,800
do you think you're really going to be

2224
01:26:41,910 --> 01:26:38,400
able to pull this off and bring us the

2225
01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:44,470
i think that

2226
01:26:49,110 --> 01:26:47,199
all i can do is trust

2227
01:26:51,590 --> 01:26:49,120
what the beings are saying

2228
01:26:53,189 --> 01:26:51,600
that this is going to happen and

2229
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:53,199
until i

2230
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:54,719
see

2231
01:26:58,629 --> 01:26:57,440
movement otherwise um

2232
01:27:01,510 --> 01:26:58,639
i know

2233
01:27:04,790 --> 01:27:01,520
that the public is quite critical of how

2234
01:27:05,590 --> 01:27:04,800
things have gone but um they've actually

2235
01:27:09,030 --> 01:27:05,600
gone

2236
01:27:10,390 --> 01:27:09,040
quite well um and

2237
01:27:16,629 --> 01:27:10,400
i

2238
01:27:18,629 --> 01:27:16,639
show steven

2239
01:27:21,189 --> 01:27:18,639
um that we're able to have this

2240
01:27:23,030 --> 01:27:21,199
conversation how many people are going

2241
01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:23,040
to start wondering

2242
01:27:26,390 --> 01:27:24,000
about

2243
01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:26,400
the message that these beings are

2244
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:29,520
telling us um about

2245
01:27:33,590 --> 01:27:31,520
them actually being

2246
01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:33,600
and that's what they're communicating to

2247
01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:35,600
us um

2248
01:27:39,669 --> 01:27:37,679
that sounds to me like a like a

2249
01:27:42,229 --> 01:27:39,679
consciousness awakening

2250
01:27:48,390 --> 01:27:45,350
and i you know i'm kind of along

2251
01:27:51,350 --> 01:27:48,400
for the ride with everybody else

2252
01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:51,360
so i just have to i have to trust

2253
01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:53,920
that they're being honest with me

2254
01:27:58,709 --> 01:27:56,800
um and back that up with

2255
01:28:00,390 --> 01:27:58,719
me being honest with you

2256
01:28:03,510 --> 01:28:00,400
and everyone else about what they're

2257
01:28:04,709 --> 01:28:03,520
saying and being honest about my own

2258
01:28:07,990 --> 01:28:04,719
um

2259
01:28:09,669 --> 01:28:08,000
my own sense of vulnerability with this

2260
01:28:12,149 --> 01:28:09,679
you know um

2261
01:28:14,229 --> 01:28:12,159
because i have put

2262
01:28:16,310 --> 01:28:14,239
my entire life on the line for what

2263
01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:16,320
they're saying and

2264
01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:17,600
um

2265
01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:18,800
i

2266
01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:25,120
out to the outcome that they've shown me

2267
01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:26,320
because

2268
01:28:31,830 --> 01:28:28,960
i just i don't know what happens after

2269
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:31,840
that you know otherwise i just

2270
01:28:35,830 --> 01:28:33,440
i know that other people have claimed

2271
01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:35,840
that they've been you know really

2272
01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:38,960
misled um

2273
01:28:41,750 --> 01:28:40,320
i just really hope that's not what's

2274
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:41,760
happening here

2275
01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:43,600
i don't feel like that's what's

2276
01:28:51,110 --> 01:28:47,510
wow and so

2277
01:28:54,149 --> 01:28:51,120
i guess i'd also like to get into uh

2278
01:28:55,110 --> 01:28:54,159
really you you talk about some things

2279
01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:55,120
uh

2280
01:28:59,189 --> 01:28:57,040
and the beings and their interest in our

2281
01:29:01,189 --> 01:28:59,199
free will and this one is from charlie

2282
01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:01,199
wiser who brought this to me and and i

2283
01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:02,719
kind of agree with her

2284
01:29:06,390 --> 01:29:04,400
you talk a lot about the beings and they

2285
01:29:08,470 --> 01:29:06,400
have interest in our free will and and

2286
01:29:09,430 --> 01:29:08,480
they're benevolent they're here to help

2287
01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:09,440
us

2288
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:10,800
but then it seems that some other

2289
01:29:14,229 --> 01:29:12,080
statements that you've made sort of

2290
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:14,239
contradict that like some aliens had a

2291
01:29:18,149 --> 01:29:15,840
problem with the human race but then

2292
01:29:20,629 --> 01:29:18,159
changed their minds can can you talk

2293
01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:20,639
about that in more detail

2294
01:29:25,669 --> 01:29:23,280
see this is why charlie is blocked i

2295
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:25,679
mean or has been you know repeatedly

2296
01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:27,040
because there's just a lot of

2297
01:29:32,550 --> 01:29:29,520
intellectual dishonesty in the people

2298
01:29:34,629 --> 01:29:32,560
that i that i end up blocking on social

2299
01:29:36,070 --> 01:29:34,639
media it's not because they disagree

2300
01:29:38,229 --> 01:29:36,080
it's because when i answer them they

2301
01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:38,239
still call me alive like i give them the

2302
01:29:43,189 --> 01:29:40,719
answer they ask me a question i answer

2303
01:29:45,030 --> 01:29:43,199
it they say liar like well what you know

2304
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:45,040
there's not much else i can do i've just

2305
01:29:49,189 --> 01:29:46,960
answered your question well give us

2306
01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:49,199
evidence and well it's like the circular

2307
01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:51,520
thing that i just can't that i just

2308
01:29:56,470 --> 01:29:54,159
can't deal with so um

2309
01:29:58,310 --> 01:29:56,480
uh you're gonna have to repeat charlie's

2310
01:29:59,669 --> 01:29:58,320
question i'm sorry that was i got

2311
01:30:01,910 --> 01:29:59,679
triggered no no

2312
01:30:03,510 --> 01:30:01,920
sure sure thing you've talked a lot

2313
01:30:05,750 --> 01:30:03,520
about the beings and their interests and

2314
01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:05,760
our free will but then it seems some

2315
01:30:10,310 --> 01:30:07,600
other statements you've made contradict

2316
01:30:12,870 --> 01:30:10,320
that can you talk more about that yeah

2317
01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:12,880
absolutely so um this is one of those

2318
01:30:16,070 --> 01:30:15,199
situations where in the beginning when i

2319
01:30:19,350 --> 01:30:16,080
first

2320
01:30:23,270 --> 01:30:19,360
started sharing my story in march um

2321
01:30:26,550 --> 01:30:23,280
that i i couldn't remember very much

2322
01:30:29,350 --> 01:30:26,560
and as the months have gone on and i've

2323
01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:29,360
had more and more contact i would say

2324
01:30:33,669 --> 01:30:30,639
that

2325
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:33,679
a better understanding of what i

2326
01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:35,840
experienced and i have tried

2327
01:30:39,350 --> 01:30:37,679
numerous times to

2328
01:30:42,709 --> 01:30:39,360
correct that so

2329
01:30:43,990 --> 01:30:42,719
in the beginning what i understood was

2330
01:30:45,750 --> 01:30:44,000
hurry up

2331
01:30:48,229 --> 01:30:45,760
the four are coming

2332
01:30:50,310 --> 01:30:48,239
um you know they were here they left

2333
01:30:53,590 --> 01:30:50,320
there were things that i got right about

2334
01:31:00,229 --> 01:30:56,470
what i understand

2335
01:31:02,870 --> 01:31:00,239
my my more full understanding of it

2336
01:31:05,510 --> 01:31:02,880
is this that

2337
01:31:09,350 --> 01:31:05,520
there are members of this council

2338
01:31:13,110 --> 01:31:09,360
and everyone has a role to play

2339
01:31:18,790 --> 01:31:16,629
the four that left it's like they came

2340
01:31:21,189 --> 01:31:18,800
they came back because it is

2341
01:31:22,070 --> 01:31:21,199
they're like this is the time

2342
01:31:24,870 --> 01:31:22,080
where

2343
01:31:27,030 --> 01:31:24,880
they're on down okay like this is their

2344
01:31:28,149 --> 01:31:27,040
their stage of the game or other cycle

2345
01:31:28,950 --> 01:31:28,159
and

2346
01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:28,960
um

2347
01:31:33,830 --> 01:31:32,320
and so they're here to facilitate

2348
01:31:36,470 --> 01:31:33,840
their part

2349
01:31:37,910 --> 01:31:36,480
their role and what comes next and i

2350
01:31:40,790 --> 01:31:37,920
don't expect

2351
01:31:41,669 --> 01:31:40,800
anyone to just blindly believe what i'm

2352
01:31:44,470 --> 01:31:41,679
saying

2353
01:31:48,390 --> 01:31:44,480
telling me

2354
01:31:51,430 --> 01:31:48,400
and i'm saying that they want to have

2355
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:51,440
open contact with humanity

2356
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:52,960
and i'm saying that they're saying that

2357
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:54,719
we're coming to an end of a couple of

2358
01:32:01,910 --> 01:31:57,360
different cycles that one is is a change

2359
01:32:04,310 --> 01:32:01,920
of the earth and the other is a cycle of

2360
01:32:06,950 --> 01:32:04,320
incarnation and reincarnation that we've

2361
01:32:08,070 --> 01:32:06,960
been doing here for a very long time

2362
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:08,080
and

2363
01:32:17,270 --> 01:32:14,000
is coming up okay is is really what it

2364
01:32:19,830 --> 01:32:17,280
is it's like we're living in a temporal

2365
01:32:21,990 --> 01:32:19,840
kind of existence that's been created

2366
01:32:23,910 --> 01:32:22,000
for us to have this experience and we're

2367
01:32:25,510 --> 01:32:23,920
moving through that

2368
01:32:27,510 --> 01:32:25,520
and so

2369
01:32:30,790 --> 01:32:27,520
it has the beginning and it has

2370
01:32:33,030 --> 01:32:30,800
as an end in the cycle not in not a

2371
01:32:34,390 --> 01:32:33,040
beginning an end of consciousness

2372
01:32:35,910 --> 01:32:34,400
it's like you know a beginning and an

2373
01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:35,920
end of dinner you don't

2374
01:32:39,750 --> 01:32:37,920
you're not born when you start your

2375
01:32:41,350 --> 01:32:39,760
breakfast and you die at the end of it

2376
01:32:42,870 --> 01:32:41,360
you start breakfast and then you finish

2377
01:32:44,790 --> 01:32:42,880
breakfast and you do something else

2378
01:32:46,310 --> 01:32:44,800
right well that's what they're showing

2379
01:32:48,550 --> 01:32:46,320
they're not saying

2380
01:32:50,149 --> 01:32:48,560
we're extinguishing consciousness

2381
01:32:52,790 --> 01:32:50,159
they're saying that we're moving through

2382
01:32:54,709 --> 01:32:52,800
a cycle that these four

2383
01:32:55,910 --> 01:32:54,719
are coming to facilitate the choices

2384
01:32:58,390 --> 01:32:55,920
that we

2385
01:33:00,070 --> 01:32:58,400
are making right now and they kind of

2386
01:33:00,870 --> 01:33:00,080
have an audience

2387
01:33:02,950 --> 01:33:00,880
um

2388
01:33:04,870 --> 01:33:02,960
and i don't know i don't know why i

2389
01:33:07,189 --> 01:33:04,880
don't know if this is like their first

2390
01:33:08,470 --> 01:33:07,199
time doing this or if it's because these

2391
01:33:10,229 --> 01:33:08,480
two cycles

2392
01:33:11,990 --> 01:33:10,239
are coming like there's so much that's

2393
01:33:14,229 --> 01:33:12,000
happening at the same time where we have

2394
01:33:15,189 --> 01:33:14,239
the the earth is changing

2395
01:33:18,149 --> 01:33:15,199
it's

2396
01:33:20,470 --> 01:33:18,159
its consciousness density is

2397
01:33:22,870 --> 01:33:20,480
like rising and then you know humans are

2398
01:33:24,550 --> 01:33:22,880
supposed to be making this this

2399
01:33:30,550 --> 01:33:24,560
consciousness

2400
01:33:33,990 --> 01:33:32,310
take a breath i'm sorry

2401
01:33:35,669 --> 01:33:34,000
we didn't give you a break or anything i

2402
01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:35,679
know this is difficult because this is a

2403
01:33:39,270 --> 01:33:37,040
lot of deep

2404
01:33:41,350 --> 01:33:39,280
deep stuff anjali and i'm glad you're

2405
01:33:42,709 --> 01:33:41,360
here to try to try to bring some more

2406
01:33:43,830 --> 01:33:42,719
understanding and

2407
01:33:45,430 --> 01:33:43,840
and uh

2408
01:33:47,590 --> 01:33:45,440
boy nobody thought this would happen and

2409
01:33:49,430 --> 01:33:47,600
i'm glad that it did because now i'm i'm

2410
01:33:50,550 --> 01:33:49,440
more fully informed and i feel like i

2411
01:33:53,270 --> 01:33:50,560
know more

2412
01:33:54,550 --> 01:33:53,280
i'm i'm a lot less skeptical and a

2413
01:33:57,270 --> 01:33:54,560
little more willing to give you the

2414
01:33:58,950 --> 01:33:57,280
benefit of doubt when i wasn't before

2415
01:34:00,629 --> 01:33:58,960
and you know i'm getting beat up for

2416
01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:00,639
that people you know people are very

2417
01:34:05,750 --> 01:34:02,080
some of my audience members are very

2418
01:34:08,790 --> 01:34:05,760
skeptical and they're like you know but

2419
01:34:11,750 --> 01:34:08,800
here here's where we are at we we have

2420
01:34:13,270 --> 01:34:11,760
uh i have run through some questions

2421
01:34:14,709 --> 01:34:13,280
that i think were very very important

2422
01:34:16,870 --> 01:34:14,719
but i wanted to see

2423
01:34:19,110 --> 01:34:16,880
we've got a little time left we'll run

2424
01:34:20,470 --> 01:34:19,120
out the clock here if we could take some

2425
01:34:22,950 --> 01:34:20,480
questions from the live chat

2426
01:34:26,149 --> 01:34:22,960
participants now but i'm gonna i'm gonna

2427
01:34:27,669 --> 01:34:26,159
put a caveat they have to be respectful

2428
01:34:29,430 --> 01:34:27,679
questions and you have to treat the

2429
01:34:30,950 --> 01:34:29,440
guests with dignity and respect or we're

2430
01:34:33,350 --> 01:34:30,960
not gonna take the questions but so

2431
01:34:36,390 --> 01:34:33,360
questions for anjali will put them in

2432
01:34:37,750 --> 01:34:36,400
all caps in the live chat and and people

2433
01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:37,760
are asking about the super chats i

2434
01:34:40,790 --> 01:34:39,120
didn't want to interrupt the the

2435
01:34:42,149 --> 01:34:40,800
interview every few minutes to thank and

2436
01:34:43,669 --> 01:34:42,159
announce the super chat so we'll be

2437
01:34:45,750 --> 01:34:43,679
doing that after

2438
01:34:47,830 --> 01:34:45,760
we conclude the interview i'll let

2439
01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:47,840
angely go and i'll continue on and and

2440
01:34:52,310 --> 01:34:50,320
we'll talk but are you okay with taking

2441
01:34:55,590 --> 01:34:52,320
some public questions because that's

2442
01:34:57,350 --> 01:34:55,600
another brave thing to do anjali yeah i

2443
01:34:59,350 --> 01:34:57,360
i don't have any problem with that um

2444
01:35:01,430 --> 01:34:59,360
but i just wanna before we do that i

2445
01:35:02,790 --> 01:35:01,440
want to finish what i was saying about

2446
01:35:04,709 --> 01:35:02,800
sure sure i'm sorry

2447
01:35:06,790 --> 01:35:04,719
oh it's okay there's there's only so

2448
01:35:07,669 --> 01:35:06,800
much time and i understand

2449
01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:07,679
um

2450
01:35:11,750 --> 01:35:09,119
so that i feel like it's really

2451
01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:11,760
important for us to get this

2452
01:35:15,910 --> 01:35:13,600
it's been very difficult for me to

2453
01:35:17,990 --> 01:35:15,920
determine how to address this do i go

2454
01:35:20,149 --> 01:35:18,000
back into that initial post as soon as i

2455
01:35:21,109 --> 01:35:20,159
go in and i make a huge

2456
01:35:24,149 --> 01:35:21,119
edit

2457
01:35:25,270 --> 01:35:24,159
um regarding the four you know um that

2458
01:35:26,149 --> 01:35:25,280
becomes

2459
01:35:33,430 --> 01:35:26,159
a

2460
01:35:35,270 --> 01:35:33,440
so i've i've decided to keep it there

2461
01:35:36,070 --> 01:35:35,280
but i'm not i don't really know that

2462
01:35:37,590 --> 01:35:36,080
it's

2463
01:35:38,790 --> 01:35:37,600
the smartest thing

2464
01:35:39,990 --> 01:35:38,800
um

2465
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:40,000
so

2466
01:35:45,830 --> 01:35:43,600
had to hurry

2467
01:35:49,430 --> 01:35:45,840
it wasn't because the four were coming

2468
01:35:50,950 --> 01:35:49,440
to destroy humanity it was i wasn't

2469
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:50,960
catching i wasn't understanding

2470
01:35:54,550 --> 01:35:53,280
everything one thing was that they were

2471
01:35:56,470 --> 01:35:54,560
trying to say is that there are some big

2472
01:35:57,990 --> 01:35:56,480
earth changes coming there's this end of

2473
01:36:00,390 --> 01:35:58,000
this cycle coming just what i've already

2474
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:00,400
been explaining all night okay that

2475
01:36:05,669 --> 01:36:04,080
those things i was like i was like tying

2476
01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:05,679
them to

2477
01:36:10,229 --> 01:36:08,320
the forecoming i didn't understand what

2478
01:36:12,310 --> 01:36:10,239
i was under what they were saying to me

2479
01:36:14,070 --> 01:36:12,320
at the time um i couldn't i couldn't

2480
01:36:15,430 --> 01:36:14,080
quite recall it

2481
01:36:16,470 --> 01:36:15,440
so it's

2482
01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:16,480
um

2483
01:36:19,830 --> 01:36:18,320
so i thought that they were

2484
01:36:21,270 --> 01:36:19,840
that they were coming in some kind of

2485
01:36:22,470 --> 01:36:21,280
vengeful way

2486
01:36:23,669 --> 01:36:22,480
but it

2487
01:36:24,870 --> 01:36:23,679
it's the

2488
01:36:25,910 --> 01:36:24,880
urgency

2489
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:25,920
is that

2490
01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:28,800
our conscious awareness as

2491
01:36:33,910 --> 01:36:30,719
a as a race

2492
01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:33,920
right now in this world as an experiment

2493
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:36,400
is really just not

2494
01:36:40,790 --> 01:36:39,760
going very well the veil is very heavy

2495
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:40,800
and

2496
01:36:47,830 --> 01:36:45,520
uh convincing

2497
01:36:48,629 --> 01:36:47,840
and um

2498
01:36:50,470 --> 01:36:48,639
and

2499
01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:50,480
so typically at this point they're

2500
01:36:55,270 --> 01:36:52,719
saying that there would be more people

2501
01:36:57,270 --> 01:36:55,280
who were are awake

2502
01:36:58,870 --> 01:36:57,280
like we should have more conscious

2503
01:37:01,270 --> 01:36:58,880
awakeness

2504
01:37:03,430 --> 01:37:01,280
than we have and that's the urgency

2505
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:03,440
because this all matters like something

2506
01:37:07,030 --> 01:37:05,760
way down the road that i it could be

2507
01:37:08,870 --> 01:37:07,040
thousands of years i don't even

2508
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:08,880
understand okay because again it's

2509
01:37:15,830 --> 01:37:12,400
outside of of our concept of time

2510
01:37:18,950 --> 01:37:15,840
um but like it matters in the end

2511
01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:18,960
how many of us are ready right now

2512
01:37:23,189 --> 01:37:20,960
to transcend and i don't understand why

2513
01:37:25,350 --> 01:37:23,199
that matters but it does and so that's

2514
01:37:27,030 --> 01:37:25,360
why they were like hurry up like you've

2515
01:37:28,390 --> 01:37:27,040
got to remember what you're doing here

2516
01:37:31,189 --> 01:37:28,400
because

2517
01:37:32,470 --> 01:37:31,199
you have a job to do

2518
01:37:34,310 --> 01:37:32,480
hurry up

2519
01:37:36,390 --> 01:37:34,320
they're coming you know we're getting to

2520
01:37:38,870 --> 01:37:36,400
the end of the cycle so i hope this

2521
01:37:40,629 --> 01:37:38,880
helps it's the best i can do it is my

2522
01:37:42,790 --> 01:37:40,639
honest to goodness answer there's

2523
01:37:44,629 --> 01:37:42,800
nothing else that i can say about it i

2524
01:37:47,750 --> 01:37:44,639
can't be any clearer

2525
01:37:48,790 --> 01:37:47,760
they haven't helped and that's why

2526
01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:48,800
they're here

2527
01:37:53,030 --> 01:37:50,719
we'll go to viewer questions first from

2528
01:37:55,669 --> 01:37:53,040
uh there's a few just a few in the super

2529
01:37:57,990 --> 01:37:55,679
chats uh

2530
01:37:59,750 --> 01:37:58,000
this is a fun question so we'll get

2531
01:38:02,709 --> 01:37:59,760
we're getting pretty heavy here so this

2532
01:38:03,910 --> 01:38:02,719
i think will help ellen fox asks because

2533
01:38:06,149 --> 01:38:03,920
angeli

2534
01:38:07,590 --> 01:38:06,159
anjali is connected to these beings can

2535
01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:07,600
she ask

2536
01:38:11,669 --> 01:38:09,360
can you ask her if the beings can

2537
01:38:13,910 --> 01:38:11,679
confirm if elon musk is a part of

2538
01:38:15,430 --> 01:38:13,920
disclosure thank you a lot of people

2539
01:38:17,189 --> 01:38:15,440
theorize he is

2540
01:38:21,430 --> 01:38:17,199
the the aliens tell you anything about

2541
01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:24,790
what my understanding has been is that

2542
01:38:30,790 --> 01:38:28,080
that he has um

2543
01:38:31,990 --> 01:38:30,800
that he has contact he has con conscious

2544
01:38:37,109 --> 01:38:32,000
contact

2545
01:38:38,550 --> 01:38:37,119
i mean

2546
01:38:40,470 --> 01:38:38,560
don't get too excited you know there's a

2547
01:38:43,430 --> 01:38:40,480
pretty good chance though has bezos and

2548
01:38:47,750 --> 01:38:45,750
right i mean you can't say wow it's so

2549
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:47,760
enlightening i mean again we all make

2550
01:38:50,149 --> 01:38:49,360
our choices and

2551
01:38:52,470 --> 01:38:50,159
and

2552
01:38:53,750 --> 01:38:52,480
um you know we can we can choose to try

2553
01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:53,760
to do

2554
01:38:57,590 --> 01:38:55,199
you know what's going to be the best for

2555
01:38:59,750 --> 01:38:57,600
everyone or you know choose to just

2556
01:39:01,590 --> 01:38:59,760
really buy into this illusion

2557
01:39:03,669 --> 01:39:01,600
of what we've created here and all the

2558
01:39:06,310 --> 01:39:03,679
things that we think are so important

2559
01:39:08,390 --> 01:39:06,320
that keep us so separated and boy are we

2560
01:39:09,669 --> 01:39:08,400
going to be surprised when

2561
01:39:13,750 --> 01:39:09,679
when

2562
01:39:14,790 --> 01:39:13,760
alone and that there are actually

2563
01:39:17,350 --> 01:39:14,800
so many

2564
01:39:20,950 --> 01:39:17,360
other beings that are sharing this space

2565
01:39:22,629 --> 01:39:20,960
with us um that we can't even see

2566
01:39:24,470 --> 01:39:22,639
i hope so because that would be a cooler

2567
01:39:26,470 --> 01:39:24,480
world to live in than when we actually

2568
01:39:28,470 --> 01:39:26,480
live in absolutely another another

2569
01:39:30,390 --> 01:39:28,480
question which is a great question from

2570
01:39:32,149 --> 01:39:30,400
lisa baldwin

2571
01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:32,159
bowden

2572
01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:39,189
i can say

2573
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:41,600
that beings that i have met

2574
01:39:46,390 --> 01:39:43,600
mean us no harm

2575
01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:46,400
um i'm not saying that there aren't

2576
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:48,880
beings that exist out there that don't

2577
01:39:53,990 --> 01:39:51,600
mean us harm i could probably name you a

2578
01:39:57,350 --> 01:39:54,000
bunch of humans out there that me and a

2579
01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:57,360
lot of people harm um

2580
01:40:05,350 --> 01:39:58,560
i

2581
01:40:11,910 --> 01:40:05,360
they

2582
01:40:13,109 --> 01:40:11,920
of our thoughts and our intentions

2583
01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:13,119
that

2584
01:40:17,750 --> 01:40:16,320
manifest into

2585
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:17,760
actions they

2586
01:40:23,669 --> 01:40:19,440
materialize

2587
01:40:25,430 --> 01:40:23,679
and in our physical world um that we

2588
01:40:28,629 --> 01:40:25,440
they explain like that there's two kinds

2589
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:28,639
of energy one is like the light that is

2590
01:40:33,830 --> 01:40:30,960
consciousness and then the other is like

2591
01:40:35,910 --> 01:40:33,840
energy that that manifests matter like

2592
01:40:37,270 --> 01:40:35,920
that and that that's what we do here and

2593
01:40:40,149 --> 01:40:37,280
so that when we

2594
01:40:40,950 --> 01:40:40,159
when we're all collectively trying to

2595
01:40:43,189 --> 01:40:40,960
think

2596
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:43,199
about the betterment

2597
01:40:47,430 --> 01:40:45,440
of the planet and the betterment of

2598
01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:47,440
humanity then we're raising that and

2599
01:40:52,470 --> 01:40:50,400
we're manifesting you know something

2600
01:40:55,350 --> 01:40:52,480
that is um

2601
01:40:56,870 --> 01:40:55,360
that that's positive and

2602
01:40:59,109 --> 01:40:56,880
um

2603
01:41:03,350 --> 01:40:59,119
and

2604
01:41:04,390 --> 01:41:03,360
that can be that that can that we can

2605
01:41:05,750 --> 01:41:04,400
grow from

2606
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:05,760
rather than

2607
01:41:11,030 --> 01:41:09,040
uh when we begin when we all operate

2608
01:41:13,590 --> 01:41:11,040
from a place of you know i am the most

2609
01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:13,600
important my needs come before everyone

2610
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:15,760
else's needs and i will cooperate with

2611
01:41:20,310 --> 01:41:18,400
you stephen as long as as us cooperating

2612
01:41:25,590 --> 01:41:20,320
together

2613
01:41:27,270 --> 01:41:25,600
as long as my my needs are still like

2614
01:41:28,870 --> 01:41:27,280
what i want you know there's just

2615
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:28,880
there's a different kind of thinking

2616
01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:30,000
there and so we have to be really

2617
01:41:34,950 --> 01:41:32,719
careful about how we think about

2618
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:34,960
um contact and

2619
01:41:37,030 --> 01:41:35,760
um

2620
01:41:38,629 --> 01:41:37,040
and how we

2621
01:41:40,149 --> 01:41:38,639
we think about

2622
01:41:41,189 --> 01:41:40,159
consciousness and

2623
01:41:42,470 --> 01:41:41,199
and

2624
01:41:44,070 --> 01:41:42,480
um

2625
01:41:46,550 --> 01:41:44,080
and attracting

2626
01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:46,560
you know energy to us so for those

2627
01:41:50,950 --> 01:41:49,040
people who meditate they

2628
01:41:58,950 --> 01:41:50,960
they

2629
01:42:01,750 --> 01:41:58,960
know positive

2630
01:42:03,430 --> 01:42:01,760
um intentions um so they're saying that

2631
01:42:05,830 --> 01:42:03,440
when you when you

2632
01:42:07,189 --> 01:42:05,840
when you operate in that mindset

2633
01:42:08,870 --> 01:42:07,199
um

2634
01:42:10,310 --> 01:42:08,880
that uh

2635
01:42:13,669 --> 01:42:10,320
you are

2636
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:13,679
you're like awakening your consciousness

2637
01:42:19,030 --> 01:42:16,480
well eric stitt uh who you may know he

2638
01:42:21,030 --> 01:42:19,040
does some incredible alien artwork uh

2639
01:42:21,990 --> 01:42:21,040
his name is eric stitt has an incredible

2640
01:42:23,590 --> 01:42:22,000
question

2641
01:42:25,910 --> 01:42:23,600
and it's kind of deep this one's kind of

2642
01:42:28,149 --> 01:42:25,920
deep and he asks how can we take your

2643
01:42:29,669 --> 01:42:28,159
subjective experience which purportedly

2644
01:42:31,510 --> 01:42:29,679
is real to you

2645
01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:31,520
and turn it into a repeatable and

2646
01:42:36,629 --> 01:42:33,760
testable objective evidence for the rest

2647
01:42:37,510 --> 01:42:36,639
of this i ask this in earnest

2648
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:37,520
yes

2649
01:42:43,669 --> 01:42:41,040
i would suggest and i mean this

2650
01:42:46,709 --> 01:42:43,679
i get no monetary gain

2651
01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:46,719
whatsoever i would go over to reddit and

2652
01:42:51,590 --> 01:42:49,360
go to the transcension project

2653
01:42:54,790 --> 01:42:51,600
and join that community

2654
01:42:56,950 --> 01:42:54,800
the people there are all asking the same

2655
01:42:58,070 --> 01:42:56,960
questions and we have people who have

2656
01:43:00,149 --> 01:42:58,080
been like

2657
01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:00,159
long meditators to people who are just

2658
01:43:03,830 --> 01:43:02,639
you know new to the idea that there

2659
01:43:06,229 --> 01:43:03,840
could be something beyond our

2660
01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:06,239
consciousness that than this one

2661
01:43:11,109 --> 01:43:08,719
experience i mean it runs the gamut but

2662
01:43:13,910 --> 01:43:11,119
what's really neat about it is

2663
01:43:16,470 --> 01:43:13,920
that it's it's becoming like a

2664
01:43:17,590 --> 01:43:16,480
it's it's a community of resources and

2665
01:43:20,310 --> 01:43:17,600
support

2666
01:43:22,870 --> 01:43:20,320
and um they have a lot more

2667
01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:22,880
time and energy to work

2668
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:24,560
directly with people you know

2669
01:43:29,109 --> 01:43:27,119
individually um

2670
01:43:37,189 --> 01:43:29,119
i

2671
01:43:46,870 --> 01:43:37,199
to

2672
01:43:48,629 --> 01:43:46,880
the nature of

2673
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:48,639
our understanding is of where we came

2674
01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:49,600
from

2675
01:43:54,390 --> 01:43:52,639
who we are and why we're here and to

2676
01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:54,400
really seek

2677
01:43:58,470 --> 01:43:56,400
to understand that instead of thinking

2678
01:44:01,510 --> 01:43:58,480
that you already have an answer

2679
01:44:02,629 --> 01:44:01,520
say i don't know and i really i really

2680
01:44:05,350 --> 01:44:02,639
want to know

2681
01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:05,360
i really truly and commit to that and

2682
01:44:10,229 --> 01:44:07,360
you commit to it in a positive way

2683
01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:10,239
without without fear and

2684
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:13,280
um without

2685
01:44:16,790 --> 01:44:14,880
ill intention

2686
01:44:22,709 --> 01:44:16,800
you know um

2687
01:44:26,790 --> 01:44:24,390
and a question about a question about

2688
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:26,800
the aliens from zofa

2689
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:29,280
uh says i'd love to see

2690
01:44:33,669 --> 01:44:31,520
if she could go into more detail on the

2691
01:44:40,709 --> 01:44:33,679
description of the mantid's head its

2692
01:44:40,719 --> 01:44:44,629
um

2693
01:44:49,669 --> 01:44:46,870
i was actually it was when you said eric

2694
01:44:50,470 --> 01:44:49,679
stitt is a really good artist

2695
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:50,480
um

2696
01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:52,239
i'm an artist but i'm not a portrait

2697
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:54,480
artist and this has been a real issue

2698
01:44:57,750 --> 01:44:55,600
for me

2699
01:44:59,910 --> 01:44:57,760
how to get these drawn i really would

2700
01:45:01,109 --> 01:44:59,920
love to be able to work with someone who

2701
01:45:02,709 --> 01:45:01,119
could

2702
01:45:03,910 --> 01:45:02,719
you know really

2703
01:45:06,310 --> 01:45:03,920
re

2704
01:45:08,940 --> 01:45:06,320
um what do you call it when they

2705
01:45:10,229 --> 01:45:08,950
it has that kind of art um

2706
01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:10,239
[Music]

2707
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:11,840
like police sketches do it what do you

2708
01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:13,920
what do you call that stephen and

2709
01:45:16,629 --> 01:45:15,040
composite

2710
01:45:19,109 --> 01:45:16,639
yes yeah because then you could draw

2711
01:45:21,189 --> 01:45:19,119
composites of these aliens right yeah

2712
01:45:23,189 --> 01:45:21,199
yeah yeah um

2713
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:23,199
and uh you know i'd love to work with

2714
01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:24,400
someone who

2715
01:45:26,709 --> 01:45:25,840
who could uh

2716
01:45:28,310 --> 01:45:26,719
try to

2717
01:45:30,790 --> 01:45:28,320
reach out to him he's the best if i

2718
01:45:33,189 --> 01:45:30,800
could afford him i'd hire him

2719
01:45:35,750 --> 01:45:33,199
i think he's the best artist that does

2720
01:45:37,990 --> 01:45:35,760
aliens and spaceships anywhere on earth

2721
01:45:40,229 --> 01:45:38,000
he is amazing he's really amazing and

2722
01:45:42,229 --> 01:45:40,239
now i apologize i just want to apologize

2723
01:45:43,910 --> 01:45:42,239
to the super chat people because my chat

2724
01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:43,920
will only let me go so far back so i

2725
01:45:46,550 --> 01:45:45,440
couldn't share on the screen but i

2726
01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:46,560
wanted to make sure i asked your

2727
01:45:48,870 --> 01:45:47,760
questions and this one is a great

2728
01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:48,880
question

2729
01:45:52,950 --> 01:45:50,880
and and something that was on my list of

2730
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:52,960
alternate questions to ask you anjali

2731
01:45:57,990 --> 01:45:55,280
what do your beings think of de long

2732
01:46:00,870 --> 01:45:58,000
elizondo and the current disclosure

2733
01:46:05,990 --> 01:46:00,880
narrative are they in contact

2734
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,910
the beings don't have like

2735
01:46:14,149 --> 01:46:12,229
when they said what do you think you

2736
01:46:15,189 --> 01:46:14,159
know what do they think of them

2737
01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:15,199
um

2738
01:46:20,229 --> 01:46:16,800
they are

2739
01:46:22,470 --> 01:46:20,239
very compassionate and supportive of all

2740
01:46:24,070 --> 01:46:22,480
of us

2741
01:46:27,430 --> 01:46:24,080
so

2742
01:46:29,590 --> 01:46:27,440
or have they reached out to

2743
01:46:30,629 --> 01:46:29,600
to those people yes but they're they've

2744
01:46:32,390 --> 01:46:30,639
also

2745
01:46:35,590 --> 01:46:32,400
they're saying that they are reaching

2746
01:46:38,470 --> 01:46:35,600
out to all of us um are these gentlemen

2747
01:46:40,149 --> 01:46:38,480
being motivated um is the current is the

2748
01:46:42,310 --> 01:46:40,159
current narrative being you know

2749
01:46:44,790 --> 01:46:42,320
motivated by their contact

2750
01:46:46,790 --> 01:46:44,800
possibly um

2751
01:46:49,109 --> 01:46:46,800
i i can't i can't say for sure i've

2752
01:46:51,590 --> 01:46:49,119
never i've never met any of them but

2753
01:46:54,229 --> 01:46:51,600
they seem like very lovely gentlemen and

2754
01:46:55,910 --> 01:46:54,239
um yeah somebody asked elizondo recently

2755
01:46:57,669 --> 01:46:55,920
if he knew you or heard of you and he

2756
01:46:59,990 --> 01:46:57,679
just gave a quick recounting of part of

2757
01:47:01,910 --> 01:47:00,000
your story and then said i never met her

2758
01:47:03,350 --> 01:47:01,920
right so because people were speculating

2759
01:47:05,270 --> 01:47:03,360
since you both worked in intelligence

2760
01:47:07,990 --> 01:47:05,280
this is an excellent question

2761
01:47:10,950 --> 01:47:08,000
um from cw chandra who really is a

2762
01:47:12,390 --> 01:47:10,960
student of spirituality in all things he

2763
01:47:14,229 --> 01:47:12,400
has looked

2764
01:47:16,870 --> 01:47:14,239
very deeply at many different religions

2765
01:47:19,189 --> 01:47:16,880
and traditions and has his own

2766
01:47:21,350 --> 01:47:19,199
religion called commonwealth chanting

2767
01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:21,360
he asks how does this cycle talk relate

2768
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:23,440
to the ancient indian concept of the

2769
01:47:27,430 --> 01:47:25,520
yugas

2770
01:47:28,790 --> 01:47:27,440
are you familiar with that

2771
01:47:33,350 --> 01:47:28,800
i couldn't really

2772
01:47:35,750 --> 01:47:33,360
yeah i'm not i'm not um

2773
01:47:38,709 --> 01:47:35,760
first on ancient the ancient indian

2774
01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:38,719
concept of the yugas um

2775
01:47:42,470 --> 01:47:39,920
it sounds

2776
01:47:45,750 --> 01:47:42,480
like they're it's related to a cycle of

2777
01:47:47,590 --> 01:47:45,760
talk um i i don't know what i can tell

2778
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:47,600
you is this is that they're saying that

2779
01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:49,679
a lot of their ancient

2780
01:47:54,629 --> 01:47:51,840
let me rephrase that

2781
01:47:55,510 --> 01:47:54,639
the ancient texts that we have

2782
01:47:58,229 --> 01:47:55,520
um

2783
01:48:00,629 --> 01:47:58,239
that that they have

2784
01:48:01,910 --> 01:48:00,639
they have inspired

2785
01:48:07,030 --> 01:48:01,920
a lot of the

2786
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:07,040
explanations um they have inspired those

2787
01:48:09,830 --> 01:48:08,320
books

2788
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:09,840
and that those

2789
01:48:16,310 --> 01:48:12,320
those stories have been contaminated by

2790
01:48:20,470 --> 01:48:16,320
by us essentially that we have we have

2791
01:48:23,189 --> 01:48:20,480
created like we have this need to deify

2792
01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:23,199
um because we feel lost

2793
01:48:25,270 --> 01:48:24,400
if we don't

2794
01:48:27,669 --> 01:48:25,280
um

2795
01:48:29,830 --> 01:48:27,679
and that's and we feel lost because we

2796
01:48:33,430 --> 01:48:29,840
have been thinking of ourselves as

2797
01:48:36,229 --> 01:48:33,440
individuals um that we have confused our

2798
01:48:38,550 --> 01:48:36,239
our body and our century experience with

2799
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:38,560
who we are um and so

2800
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:39,520
when

2801
01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:42,960
so we have felt very um

2802
01:48:47,030 --> 01:48:44,800
separate and

2803
01:48:48,709 --> 01:48:47,040
um

2804
01:48:50,870 --> 01:48:48,719
and not

2805
01:48:53,189 --> 01:48:50,880
so much so that

2806
01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:53,199
deification is how we deal with it

2807
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:55,280
and so they're saying that that

2808
01:49:01,109 --> 01:48:58,400
not only are the stories

2809
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:01,119
always told through the lens of

2810
01:49:05,669 --> 01:49:03,760
the culture and society at the time

2811
01:49:07,189 --> 01:49:05,679
um and their knowledge

2812
01:49:11,750 --> 01:49:07,199
but that it's also

2813
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:11,760
been um like contaminated by deification

2814
01:49:15,750 --> 01:49:15,040
i've heard that i've heard that before

2815
01:49:17,350 --> 01:49:15,760
for

2816
01:49:18,950 --> 01:49:17,360
what it's worth

2817
01:49:21,589 --> 01:49:18,960
okay and uh

2818
01:49:23,589 --> 01:49:21,599
erica luke's is here from ufo classified

2819
01:49:25,430 --> 01:49:23,599
and uh again she's the person who i

2820
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:25,440
shared some of this information about

2821
01:49:28,550 --> 01:49:27,040
wayne with but we've talked and she's

2822
01:49:29,510 --> 01:49:28,560
not going to spill the beans and neither

2823
01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:29,520
am i

2824
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:32,400
so out of you know uh she she is

2825
01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:34,719
and and i do agree that your explanation

2826
01:49:38,149 --> 01:49:36,239
of what you did for the intelligence

2827
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:38,159
community was somewhat vague and i'm not

2828
01:49:43,750 --> 01:49:40,560
sure if that's could be because of ndas

2829
01:49:46,149 --> 01:49:43,760
or other things but erica asks what

2830
01:49:47,910 --> 01:49:46,159
specifically was your role

2831
01:49:49,270 --> 01:49:47,920
working with intel

2832
01:49:51,030 --> 01:49:49,280
or the intelligence community i think

2833
01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:51,040
she means or dia

2834
01:49:57,830 --> 01:49:54,000
yeah i well i had i had many you know i

2835
01:50:01,030 --> 01:49:59,109
human factors

2836
01:50:03,750 --> 01:50:01,040
intelligence

2837
01:50:05,030 --> 01:50:03,760
which is essentially

2838
01:50:08,310 --> 01:50:05,040
doing

2839
01:50:10,149 --> 01:50:08,320
research on state and non-state leaders

2840
01:50:11,589 --> 01:50:10,159
just so that we can so that we have a

2841
01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:11,599
better understanding of how to influence

2842
01:50:16,550 --> 01:50:13,840
their decision making to

2843
01:50:18,950 --> 01:50:16,560
um you know to be more

2844
01:50:20,709 --> 01:50:18,960
congruent with u.s interests

2845
01:50:22,229 --> 01:50:20,719
okay um

2846
01:50:24,950 --> 01:50:22,239
and so

2847
01:50:27,109 --> 01:50:24,960
my everything that i did my

2848
01:50:28,390 --> 01:50:27,119
my charter was all

2849
01:50:29,750 --> 01:50:28,400
um

2850
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,760
you know non

2851
01:50:33,189 --> 01:50:31,119
non-domestic

2852
01:50:35,109 --> 01:50:33,199
um total so dealing with foreign

2853
01:50:37,270 --> 01:50:35,119
countries and intelligence

2854
01:50:39,669 --> 01:50:37,280
and so everything that i did was just

2855
01:50:40,709 --> 01:50:39,679
in support of um

2856
01:50:45,189 --> 01:50:40,719
the

2857
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:45,199
what it all comes down to if we you know

2858
01:50:49,990 --> 01:50:47,920
if we have to simplify it to

2859
01:50:51,669 --> 01:50:50,000
to a sentence it's

2860
01:50:53,750 --> 01:50:51,679
it's

2861
01:50:56,070 --> 01:50:53,760
people are a little upset because i i we

2862
01:50:58,629 --> 01:50:56,080
asked the question about the mantis and

2863
01:51:00,629 --> 01:50:58,639
and its anatomy and we kind of

2864
01:51:03,350 --> 01:51:00,639
got sidetracked so maybe we could get

2865
01:51:07,030 --> 01:51:03,360
back to that uh and the question was

2866
01:51:08,229 --> 01:51:07,040
uh let me get it back uh one second

2867
01:51:09,990 --> 01:51:08,239
uh

2868
01:51:11,270 --> 01:51:10,000
it was from zofa and says i'd love it if

2869
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:11,280
she could go into detail of the

2870
01:51:16,149 --> 01:51:13,040
description of the mantid's head its

2871
01:51:17,030 --> 01:51:16,159
mouth and texture in particular

2872
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:17,040
um

2873
01:51:20,950 --> 01:51:18,960
as far as texture

2874
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:20,960
my recollection is that it's

2875
01:51:28,229 --> 01:51:27,030
the head

2876
01:51:30,149 --> 01:51:28,239
is

2877
01:51:31,270 --> 01:51:30,159
um

2878
01:51:32,950 --> 01:51:31,280
other

2879
01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:32,960
you know bulbous in

2880
01:51:37,510 --> 01:51:35,520
in the back there's there's no hair on

2881
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:37,520
on the body um

2882
01:51:42,629 --> 01:51:41,840
very spindly body beautiful very thin

2883
01:51:46,070 --> 01:51:42,639
and

2884
01:51:47,669 --> 01:51:46,080
lanky but with specific shoulders i mean

2885
01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:47,679
you know what i'm saying i mean there

2886
01:51:55,350 --> 01:51:48,639
are

2887
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:55,360
these

2888
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:56,159
very

2889
01:51:59,589 --> 01:51:57,119
um

2890
01:52:00,870 --> 01:51:59,599
universal things you know there's

2891
01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:00,880
there's eyes

2892
01:52:07,270 --> 01:52:05,119
um and the eyes were were larger and you

2893
01:52:09,669 --> 01:52:07,280
know set off to the side a little bit

2894
01:52:11,510 --> 01:52:09,679
more than ours um

2895
01:52:17,589 --> 01:52:11,520
the

2896
01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:17,599
into more of

2897
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:19,760
of a point but it had a very it was

2898
01:52:27,109 --> 01:52:21,040
quite bulbous

2899
01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:28,390
very small

2900
01:52:32,709 --> 01:52:30,560
mouth um it just

2901
01:52:37,510 --> 01:52:32,719
i don't know how i don't know how to

2902
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:39,109
yeah i mean it's difficult to explain

2903
01:52:42,629 --> 01:52:40,800
because from most descriptions i've

2904
01:52:44,870 --> 01:52:42,639
heard of mantis it's like a it's like a

2905
01:52:46,470 --> 01:52:44,880
six foot tall praying mantis insect

2906
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:46,480
standing right in front of you and

2907
01:52:51,750 --> 01:52:50,159
that's kind of crazy to think about it

2908
01:52:55,910 --> 01:52:51,760
more for this one more like pushing

2909
01:52:59,030 --> 01:52:55,920
eight feet is what i'm you know my

2910
01:53:01,910 --> 01:52:59,040
you know my best recollection is that

2911
01:53:04,629 --> 01:53:01,920
quite quite well um

2912
01:53:07,669 --> 01:53:04,639
the skin was definitely you know a

2913
01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:07,679
lavender uh a purple um

2914
01:53:13,589 --> 01:53:11,280
you know light lavendery color um

2915
01:53:15,830 --> 01:53:13,599
everything you know i want to

2916
01:53:18,149 --> 01:53:15,840
to just reiterate that there were no i

2917
01:53:21,109 --> 01:53:18,159
wasn't seeing

2918
01:53:22,629 --> 01:53:21,119
geometrics and paisleys and tracers with

2919
01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:22,639
my hands or any of the things that

2920
01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:23,520
people

2921
01:53:30,149 --> 01:53:27,760
wasn't in a fetal position having just

2922
01:53:33,350 --> 01:53:30,159
vomited from being dosed with some kind

2923
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:33,360
of dmt or ayahuasca you know unbeknownst

2924
01:53:38,149 --> 01:53:36,080
to me um

2925
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:38,159
everyone that i've ever heard who's been

2926
01:53:43,589 --> 01:53:41,840
on those um those experiences it's it's

2927
01:53:46,229 --> 01:53:43,599
something that happens you know

2928
01:53:49,030 --> 01:53:46,239
pretty quickly um the whole thing is up

2929
01:53:51,589 --> 01:53:49,040
and over um and they're not up walking

2930
01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:51,599
around and doing things for hours

2931
01:53:54,709 --> 01:53:52,400
so

2932
01:53:56,149 --> 01:53:54,719
um

2933
01:53:59,430 --> 01:53:56,159
i can't

2934
01:54:01,510 --> 01:53:59,440
really tell you exactly i don't know how

2935
01:54:03,990 --> 01:54:01,520
to explain

2936
01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:04,000
how they looked i don't remember the

2937
01:54:07,109 --> 01:54:05,040
hands

2938
01:54:08,629 --> 01:54:07,119
you know that's been a question

2939
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:08,639
um

2940
01:54:12,709 --> 01:54:11,280
i don't remember

2941
01:54:14,470 --> 01:54:12,719
i wish i did

2942
01:54:18,149 --> 01:54:14,480
um

2943
01:54:20,830 --> 01:54:18,159
i can tell you that i was in such awe

2944
01:54:25,510 --> 01:54:20,840
when i saw them that it was like

2945
01:54:26,629 --> 01:54:25,520
i it was maybe the most magnificent

2946
01:54:28,229 --> 01:54:26,639
moment

2947
01:54:30,709 --> 01:54:28,239
even more so than

2948
01:54:32,950 --> 01:54:30,719
you know turning that corner and seeing

2949
01:54:35,109 --> 01:54:32,960
oh my gosh it's real they're actually

2950
01:54:37,109 --> 01:54:35,119
they're actually really standing there

2951
01:54:39,350 --> 01:54:37,119
too i thought that was you know

2952
01:54:40,790 --> 01:54:39,360
mind-blowing enough but to find out that

2953
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:40,800
the being that i had been talking to

2954
01:54:44,950 --> 01:54:42,719
that i thought was about four foot tall

2955
01:54:48,629 --> 01:54:44,960
was actually more like eight foot tall

2956
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:51,189
great and we have another question uh

2957
01:54:57,030 --> 01:54:54,000
and again from go kicks rocks

2958
01:54:57,830 --> 01:54:57,040
uh big ufo twitter person

2959
01:54:59,830 --> 01:54:57,840
uh

2960
01:55:01,910 --> 01:54:59,840
and she asked wayne excavated the tunnel

2961
01:55:03,669 --> 01:55:01,920
but didn't see the base until he took

2962
01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:03,679
her how is that possible maybe you can

2963
01:55:07,350 --> 01:55:05,920
clarify because i don't think she's yeah

2964
01:55:08,629 --> 01:55:07,360
i can never say that i've never said

2965
01:55:10,629 --> 01:55:08,639
that he couldn't see the base i said

2966
01:55:12,629 --> 01:55:10,639
he's never been that to his recollection

2967
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:12,639
he has never been in the base that's

2968
01:55:19,510 --> 01:55:15,920
what i had said um and that when he

2969
01:55:20,709 --> 01:55:19,520
stepped into it um we were

2970
01:55:21,910 --> 01:55:20,719
immediately

2971
01:55:25,109 --> 01:55:21,920
um

2972
01:55:26,950 --> 01:55:25,119
moved back you know back to

2973
01:55:29,910 --> 01:55:26,960
his home under that place where he said

2974
01:55:31,109 --> 01:55:29,920
he would be so um so no

2975
01:55:34,390 --> 01:55:31,119
he didn't

2976
01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:34,400
base in fact what he said was i found

2977
01:55:37,350 --> 01:55:35,760
their base and i want to take you to

2978
01:55:39,430 --> 01:55:37,360
steven

2979
01:55:40,629 --> 01:55:39,440
interesting and can you describe this is

2980
01:55:42,310 --> 01:55:40,639
another question that was on my

2981
01:55:44,629 --> 01:55:42,320
alternate list here

2982
01:55:47,910 --> 01:55:44,639
what was the experience of this teleport

2983
01:55:51,189 --> 01:55:47,920
like what did you feel see or experience

2984
01:55:52,950 --> 01:55:51,199
nothing i saw felt experienced

2985
01:55:55,350 --> 01:55:52,960
absolutely nothing what

2986
01:55:56,390 --> 01:55:55,360
okay i'm standing there

2987
01:55:57,910 --> 01:55:56,400
and i'm

2988
01:56:00,709 --> 01:55:57,920
the the

2989
01:56:03,830 --> 01:56:00,719
the smaller gray is here beside me

2990
01:56:05,589 --> 01:56:03,840
um the tall whites are are right here

2991
01:56:07,990 --> 01:56:05,599
and i'm i'm convinced that their

2992
01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:08,000
security i i really am convinced about

2993
01:56:13,109 --> 01:56:10,960
that there's some kind of security um

2994
01:56:14,790 --> 01:56:13,119
they all dress the same and they

2995
01:56:18,310 --> 01:56:14,800
completely silent they didn't speak to

2996
01:56:20,070 --> 01:56:18,320
me they didn't interact with me um

2997
01:56:21,510 --> 01:56:20,080
you know from the human you know my

2998
01:56:23,510 --> 01:56:21,520
human understanding of that kind of

2999
01:56:25,030 --> 01:56:23,520
behavior makes me think oh it's like a

3000
01:56:28,629 --> 01:56:25,040
security detail

3001
01:56:31,430 --> 01:56:28,639
so um anyway so i'm standing there um we

3002
01:56:33,830 --> 01:56:31,440
have just you know walked down the hall

3003
01:56:36,149 --> 01:56:33,840
it's very quiet nobody is talking

3004
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:36,159
because everything is happening

3005
01:56:40,629 --> 01:56:38,400
you know consciously

3006
01:56:45,270 --> 01:56:43,430
the only sound that was there was the

3007
01:56:46,229 --> 01:56:45,280
sound of our own movement

3008
01:56:49,750 --> 01:56:46,239
um

3009
01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:49,760
and as soon as as wayne stepped into the

3010
01:56:53,189 --> 01:56:51,119
base

3011
01:56:55,350 --> 01:56:53,199
um

3012
01:56:57,350 --> 01:56:55,360
it was like i blinked

3013
01:57:02,709 --> 01:56:57,360
and when i opened my eyes we were

3014
01:57:05,669 --> 01:57:02,719
standing beneath this arch in his home

3015
01:57:08,550 --> 01:57:05,679
um and it was like it was literally like

3016
01:57:10,550 --> 01:57:08,560
a split second it's how it felt just

3017
01:57:12,870 --> 01:57:10,560
there's no co i have no conscious memory

3018
01:57:14,550 --> 01:57:12,880
of anything no strange sensation so it

3019
01:57:16,550 --> 01:57:14,560
was over in an instant before you even

3020
01:57:19,109 --> 01:57:16,560
realized what was happening

3021
01:57:21,109 --> 01:57:19,119
if so it was so discombobulating if you

3022
01:57:22,550 --> 01:57:21,119
can imagine like right now if you

3023
01:57:24,470 --> 01:57:22,560
blinked and suddenly you're somewhere

3024
01:57:26,390 --> 01:57:24,480
completely different the very first

3025
01:57:28,950 --> 01:57:26,400
thing i did was i put my hands on my

3026
01:57:30,149 --> 01:57:28,960
head and i screamed what the f is going

3027
01:57:32,070 --> 01:57:30,159
on

3028
01:57:33,669 --> 01:57:32,080
yeah i remember that part of your story

3029
01:57:34,870 --> 01:57:33,679
which is something that i would probably

3030
01:57:36,070 --> 01:57:34,880
do as well

3031
01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:36,080
oh my god

3032
01:57:41,669 --> 01:57:39,119
i want to get to i really gotta get to

3033
01:57:44,229 --> 01:57:41,679
what are your plans is this timeline

3034
01:57:47,030 --> 01:57:44,239
that you've discussed still okay

3035
01:57:49,589 --> 01:57:47,040
do you have more team members and and

3036
01:57:52,070 --> 01:57:49,599
and how is that on track are you still

3037
01:57:53,669 --> 01:57:52,080
set to deliver this proof and evidence

3038
01:57:54,870 --> 01:57:53,679
and what forms do you think that will

3039
01:57:56,950 --> 01:57:54,880
take are you bringing are you going to

3040
01:57:58,470 --> 01:57:56,960
bring us back pictures of the aliens is

3041
01:58:00,550 --> 01:57:58,480
everybody going to take a selfie and i

3042
01:58:01,830 --> 01:58:00,560
know this is a stupid question but are

3043
01:58:03,270 --> 01:58:01,840
these scientists going to go take

3044
01:58:04,709 --> 01:58:03,280
selfies with the aliens are they going

3045
01:58:07,189 --> 01:58:04,719
to have similar

3046
01:58:08,709 --> 01:58:07,199
experience that you had when you go

3047
01:58:10,629 --> 01:58:08,719
visit the base

3048
01:58:12,709 --> 01:58:10,639
and are you that is the timeline still

3049
01:58:14,070 --> 01:58:12,719
right what forms of evidence do you

3050
01:58:15,910 --> 01:58:14,080
think you're going to bring forward to

3051
01:58:17,830 --> 01:58:15,920
prove this by the end of the year as

3052
01:58:18,709 --> 01:58:17,840
you've promised

3053
01:58:21,109 --> 01:58:18,719
um

3054
01:58:24,709 --> 01:58:21,119
i my understanding from them is that

3055
01:58:26,629 --> 01:58:24,719
everything is still right on track um

3056
01:58:29,510 --> 01:58:26,639
what kind of evidence

3057
01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:29,520
my gosh well um

3058
01:58:35,350 --> 01:58:32,560
we have so many different

3059
01:58:37,910 --> 01:58:35,360
kinds of equipment that i'm i'm not you

3060
01:58:39,430 --> 01:58:37,920
know a scientist so it's really hard for

3061
01:58:41,109 --> 01:58:39,440
me to

3062
01:58:42,229 --> 01:58:41,119
um

3063
01:58:45,189 --> 01:58:42,239
to

3064
01:58:48,390 --> 01:58:45,199
describe um the different kinds

3065
01:58:51,350 --> 01:58:48,400
of of equipment that that we will have

3066
01:58:55,589 --> 01:58:51,360
but it will you will have

3067
01:58:57,990 --> 01:58:55,599
obviously we'll have audio video um

3068
01:58:59,990 --> 01:58:58,000
i don't know about live streaming uh

3069
01:59:02,149 --> 01:59:00,000
only because i just don't know

3070
01:59:03,589 --> 01:59:02,159
i just don't know how to make it happen

3071
01:59:05,030 --> 01:59:03,599
okay i'm not saying that it can't happen

3072
01:59:07,270 --> 01:59:05,040
it's just that i don't know how to make

3073
01:59:08,950 --> 01:59:07,280
it happen i can come and do that for you

3074
01:59:10,550 --> 01:59:08,960
right from my phone and i'll make sure

3075
01:59:12,149 --> 01:59:10,560
that i have a phone that that will work

3076
01:59:13,750 --> 01:59:12,159
in that area i'm just putting it out

3077
01:59:16,390 --> 01:59:13,760
there just letting you know

3078
01:59:17,990 --> 01:59:16,400
if you if you don't have perception you

3079
01:59:19,430 --> 01:59:18,000
can what do you do

3080
01:59:21,589 --> 01:59:19,440
how do you yeah

3081
01:59:23,510 --> 01:59:21,599
yeah i'd have to check in advance that

3082
01:59:25,589 --> 01:59:23,520
i'd have a phone with a carrier that

3083
01:59:27,830 --> 01:59:25,599
would cover that area well that's what

3084
01:59:29,830 --> 01:59:27,840
i'm trying to say darling is that or put

3085
01:59:31,990 --> 01:59:29,840
a wi-fi booster up from wayne's house

3086
01:59:35,109 --> 01:59:32,000
and then i could use his wi-fi if he has

3087
01:59:39,030 --> 01:59:37,189
um okay so

3088
01:59:41,189 --> 01:59:39,040
anyway i'm sorry

3089
01:59:43,750 --> 01:59:41,199
remind me what the question was again

3090
01:59:46,149 --> 01:59:43,760
what what are you on track with this

3091
01:59:48,229 --> 01:59:46,159
promise of delivering this evidence by

3092
01:59:49,910 --> 01:59:48,239
the end of the year and what forms do

3093
01:59:52,629 --> 01:59:49,920
you think are we going to get pictures

3094
01:59:53,910 --> 01:59:52,639
videos are we going to get you know like

3095
01:59:56,229 --> 01:59:53,920
i would think that there should be some

3096
01:59:58,550 --> 01:59:56,239
kind of cultural exchange like for

3097
02:00:01,350 --> 01:59:58,560
example if we met aliens we might show

3098
02:00:03,350 --> 02:00:01,360
them our history books or our bible or

3099
02:00:05,189 --> 02:00:03,360
things like that

3100
02:00:08,229 --> 02:00:05,199
they don't need us to show them anything

3101
02:00:11,270 --> 02:00:08,239
this is all part of the illusion

3102
02:00:13,270 --> 02:00:11,280
they don't need us to show them anything

3103
02:00:16,470 --> 02:00:13,280
will they be giving us some kind of

3104
02:00:18,950 --> 02:00:16,480
scientific knowledge or or anything any

3105
02:00:20,950 --> 02:00:18,960
goodies you know people always want the

3106
02:00:22,629 --> 02:00:20,960
secret to anti-gravity the secret to

3107
02:00:24,950 --> 02:00:22,639
interstellar travel

3108
02:00:27,109 --> 02:00:24,960
are they going to give us any of that

3109
02:00:29,189 --> 02:00:27,119
my understanding is that they are going

3110
02:00:31,109 --> 02:00:29,199
to help to

3111
02:00:32,950 --> 02:00:31,119
facilitate

3112
02:00:34,709 --> 02:00:32,960
our

3113
02:00:38,390 --> 02:00:34,719
are like

3114
02:00:40,149 --> 02:00:38,400
us getting through this next cycle um

3115
02:00:41,350 --> 02:00:40,159
i i think that there are things

3116
02:00:43,990 --> 02:00:41,360
happening that we're gonna need their

3117
02:00:47,270 --> 02:00:44,000
help with and it sounds like that's

3118
02:00:50,149 --> 02:00:47,280
why they're here um and so

3119
02:00:52,149 --> 02:00:50,159
um what that what does that look like i

3120
02:00:54,470 --> 02:00:52,159
i don't know because that's

3121
02:00:55,750 --> 02:00:54,480
above my grade level you know what i'm

3122
02:00:57,669 --> 02:00:55,760
saying like

3123
02:00:59,990 --> 02:00:57,679
i don't i don't know

3124
02:01:01,750 --> 02:01:00,000
i don't know

3125
02:01:03,990 --> 02:01:01,760
or they haven't communicated to you what

3126
02:01:05,750 --> 02:01:04,000
they're going to give us or share

3127
02:01:06,870 --> 02:01:05,760
adequately do you think

3128
02:01:10,149 --> 02:01:06,880
it's not

3129
02:01:11,990 --> 02:01:10,159
i i think that we're misunderstanding

3130
02:01:14,390 --> 02:01:12,000
they're not here to like share

3131
02:01:15,189 --> 02:01:14,400
technology they're they're here to help

3132
02:01:20,390 --> 02:01:15,199
us

3133
02:01:22,470 --> 02:01:20,400
difficult times um

3134
02:01:24,149 --> 02:01:22,480
and i don't know what that assistance

3135
02:01:27,270 --> 02:01:24,159
looks like

3136
02:01:29,990 --> 02:01:27,280
they do not show me that but um it's not

3137
02:01:33,189 --> 02:01:30,000
a matter of like specific technology i

3138
02:01:36,790 --> 02:01:33,199
just don't know i don't know what it is

3139
02:01:39,030 --> 02:01:36,800
okay and again a a question with respect

3140
02:01:40,950 --> 02:01:39,040
you've discussed you've discussed

3141
02:01:42,950 --> 02:01:40,960
health problems and your friend wayne

3142
02:01:44,550 --> 02:01:42,960
had some health problems

3143
02:01:46,870 --> 02:01:44,560
and you discussed that they were trying

3144
02:01:49,510 --> 02:01:46,880
to heal you or something like that and

3145
02:01:51,270 --> 02:01:49,520
and i guess my question is if these

3146
02:01:53,270 --> 02:01:51,280
super advanced beings want the best for

3147
02:01:55,990 --> 02:01:53,280
us and they want to help us

3148
02:01:58,149 --> 02:01:56,000
and they're able to trans you know

3149
02:01:59,669 --> 02:01:58,159
go from other star systems to here on

3150
02:02:01,669 --> 02:01:59,679
earth and have all this advanced

3151
02:02:04,790 --> 02:02:01,679
technology

3152
02:02:06,709 --> 02:02:04,800
did they try to heal you and wayne or

3153
02:02:10,070 --> 02:02:06,719
and were just not successful or were

3154
02:02:11,910 --> 02:02:10,080
they unwilling to maybe some

3155
02:02:14,149 --> 02:02:11,920
rule that they can't intervene in that

3156
02:02:15,510 --> 02:02:14,159
way or or a lot of people have asked

3157
02:02:18,070 --> 02:02:15,520
about this

3158
02:02:21,030 --> 02:02:18,080
right okay so i i do not know with

3159
02:02:23,109 --> 02:02:21,040
respect to wayne and his help and what

3160
02:02:24,070 --> 02:02:23,119
that relationship has been like

3161
02:02:26,470 --> 02:02:24,080
um

3162
02:02:29,750 --> 02:02:26,480
i can tell you that they

3163
02:02:32,390 --> 02:02:29,760
they took me out of my body they took us

3164
02:02:33,189 --> 02:02:32,400
my consciousness out of this body

3165
02:02:36,550 --> 02:02:33,199
and

3166
02:02:38,709 --> 02:02:36,560
i was in a a light

3167
02:02:40,790 --> 02:02:38,719
that was like mist

3168
02:02:42,709 --> 02:02:40,800
um i don't know if if you experienced

3169
02:02:45,750 --> 02:02:42,719
this stephen but it was like literally

3170
02:02:48,149 --> 02:02:45,760
if you could imagine

3171
02:02:50,709 --> 02:02:48,159
the faintest missed but it's all just

3172
02:02:51,990 --> 02:02:50,719
little itty bitty pieces of light

3173
02:02:53,750 --> 02:02:52,000
um

3174
02:02:56,950 --> 02:02:53,760
and i may have seen something like that

3175
02:02:58,629 --> 02:02:56,960
tripping with respect you know like

3176
02:03:00,470 --> 02:02:58,639
i was a rock guy

3177
02:03:04,310 --> 02:03:00,480
you know i did everything

3178
02:03:05,430 --> 02:03:04,320
every party favor there was you know

3179
02:03:08,629 --> 02:03:05,440
that's okay

3180
02:03:10,790 --> 02:03:08,639
um well this was this was like

3181
02:03:12,149 --> 02:03:10,800
as i was laying

3182
02:03:14,629 --> 02:03:12,159
um

3183
02:03:18,629 --> 02:03:14,639
supine you know on my back

3184
02:03:21,589 --> 02:03:18,639
the light was it was like a a triangular

3185
02:03:24,229 --> 02:03:21,599
light that was it wasn't like it was

3186
02:03:26,149 --> 02:03:24,239
it was dispersed everywhere it was very

3187
02:03:29,430 --> 02:03:26,159
controlled and you know within a

3188
02:03:31,189 --> 02:03:29,440
specific area where i was inside of it

3189
02:03:34,070 --> 02:03:31,199
okay

3190
02:03:36,709 --> 02:03:35,270
they

3191
02:03:38,790 --> 02:03:36,719
used it to

3192
02:03:40,870 --> 02:03:38,800
to look at what was going on with me i

3193
02:03:42,790 --> 02:03:40,880
don't know what all you know they did

3194
02:03:44,229 --> 02:03:42,800
with it they did tell me about a couple

3195
02:03:46,870 --> 02:03:44,239
of medications that they wanted me to

3196
02:03:49,910 --> 02:03:46,880
get off of um because they thought that

3197
02:03:51,669 --> 02:03:49,920
or because it was um causing seizures

3198
02:03:54,069 --> 02:03:51,679
and it was and they were they were

3199
02:03:56,470 --> 02:03:54,079
lowering my threshold um we found out

3200
02:03:57,990 --> 02:03:56,480
that a couple of them together lowered

3201
02:03:59,990 --> 02:03:58,000
my threshold too much so that i was

3202
02:04:01,990 --> 02:04:00,000
having you know more offside seizures

3203
02:04:03,430 --> 02:04:02,000
which was making my short-term memory

3204
02:04:06,550 --> 02:04:03,440
more difficult

3205
02:04:09,189 --> 02:04:06,560
and so um so they pointed that out um

3206
02:04:11,669 --> 02:04:09,199
and i did actually later get off of both

3207
02:04:13,090 --> 02:04:11,679
of those

3208
02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:13,100
and um

3209
02:04:19,189 --> 02:04:18,149
they

3210
02:04:22,390 --> 02:04:19,199
said

3211
02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:22,400
that there was something that was wrong

3212
02:04:26,709 --> 02:04:24,480
with my genetics

3213
02:04:28,069 --> 02:04:26,719
like it was a genetic my dna there was a

3214
02:04:29,830 --> 02:04:28,079
dna issue

3215
02:04:32,470 --> 02:04:29,840
and that they couldn't they couldn't

3216
02:04:35,510 --> 02:04:32,480
really fix that um that they could help

3217
02:04:37,350 --> 02:04:35,520
me you know with with my energy but that

3218
02:04:38,470 --> 02:04:37,360
they couldn't fix

3219
02:04:40,950 --> 02:04:38,480
the genetic

3220
02:04:41,910 --> 02:04:40,960
problem with this body

3221
02:04:44,550 --> 02:04:41,920
um

3222
02:04:50,310 --> 02:04:46,950
so i mean i just accept that

3223
02:04:53,589 --> 02:04:50,320
okay so but now okay so they're not

3224
02:04:56,310 --> 02:04:53,599
they're not here to my understanding

3225
02:04:58,870 --> 02:04:56,320
is that they're saying that part of

3226
02:05:00,790 --> 02:04:58,880
the third density experience is that

3227
02:05:03,750 --> 02:05:00,800
they don't interfere

3228
02:05:06,709 --> 02:05:03,760
that they're they're here to

3229
02:05:09,669 --> 02:05:06,719
to facilitate the cycle

3230
02:05:11,669 --> 02:05:09,679
that we choose to be in and

3231
02:05:13,350 --> 02:05:11,679
to prevent us from basically destroying

3232
02:05:15,030 --> 02:05:13,360
it and destroying ourselves in the

3233
02:05:19,030 --> 02:05:15,040
process

3234
02:05:21,270 --> 02:05:19,040
while allowing us to experience and

3235
02:05:22,470 --> 02:05:21,280
learn what we're wanting to do

3236
02:05:23,910 --> 02:05:22,480
um

3237
02:05:26,069 --> 02:05:23,920
and so that's where free will really

3238
02:05:27,750 --> 02:05:26,079
comes in is they don't

3239
02:05:29,589 --> 02:05:27,760
they don't interfere

3240
02:05:30,870 --> 02:05:29,599
um they try to guide us

3241
02:05:33,030 --> 02:05:30,880
um

3242
02:05:35,669 --> 02:05:33,040
but they don't interfere

3243
02:05:38,149 --> 02:05:35,679
unless we're at a point where

3244
02:05:39,750 --> 02:05:38,159
it could be extinction level for you

3245
02:05:43,109 --> 02:05:39,760
know the planet or

3246
02:05:45,589 --> 02:05:43,119
the the people and um that inhabit it

3247
02:05:47,750 --> 02:05:45,599
and and so you know they they just want

3248
02:05:48,950 --> 02:05:47,760
to help

3249
02:05:50,229 --> 02:05:48,960
um

3250
02:05:52,550 --> 02:05:50,239
some of the mistakes that we've made and

3251
02:05:54,629 --> 02:05:52,560
help us fix it i think so

3252
02:05:55,669 --> 02:05:54,639
this is an excellent question from v and

3253
02:05:57,669 --> 02:05:55,679
that is

3254
02:05:59,750 --> 02:05:57,679
i've seen people like dr stephen greer

3255
02:06:02,310 --> 02:05:59,760
say all aliens are benevolent which i

3256
02:06:03,430 --> 02:06:02,320
think is a very dangerous generalization

3257
02:06:04,629 --> 02:06:03,440
to make

3258
02:06:05,750 --> 02:06:04,639
and and

3259
02:06:07,109 --> 02:06:05,760
and you're

3260
02:06:09,270 --> 02:06:07,119
saying that they're here to help us and

3261
02:06:10,470 --> 02:06:09,280
they're benevolent so

3262
02:06:12,229 --> 02:06:10,480
what about

3263
02:06:14,390 --> 02:06:12,239
v's right there's a lot of stories about

3264
02:06:15,910 --> 02:06:14,400
abductions about the grays and mantids

3265
02:06:18,390 --> 02:06:15,920
using humans and reproductive

3266
02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:18,400
experiments or things like that did you

3267
02:06:22,310 --> 02:06:20,239
get any sense from them and people are

3268
02:06:23,510 --> 02:06:22,320
also asking how are you so sure that

3269
02:06:25,830 --> 02:06:23,520
they're not

3270
02:06:28,229 --> 02:06:25,840
deceiving you and they're gonna you know

3271
02:06:30,310 --> 02:06:28,239
conquer earth or something

3272
02:06:32,310 --> 02:06:30,320
well i think that first of all if they

3273
02:06:34,790 --> 02:06:32,320
wanted to conquer earth they could just

3274
02:06:37,189 --> 02:06:34,800
do it they certainly wouldn't need to

3275
02:06:38,550 --> 02:06:37,199
play games with me um it seems to me

3276
02:06:39,830 --> 02:06:38,560
like they're really trying to be pretty

3277
02:06:41,430 --> 02:06:39,840
gentle with us

3278
02:06:43,750 --> 02:06:41,440
you know they're really using kind of

3279
02:06:45,589 --> 02:06:43,760
the soft gloves um

3280
02:06:48,950 --> 02:06:45,599
the experience

3281
02:06:51,589 --> 02:06:48,960
is is incredibly overwhelming and

3282
02:06:59,350 --> 02:06:53,750
they just want us to be

3283
02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:59,360
consciously prepared for that contact um

3284
02:07:01,189 --> 02:07:00,400
now

3285
02:07:04,790 --> 02:07:01,199
the

3286
02:07:06,709 --> 02:07:04,800
as far as grays and mantids

3287
02:07:08,790 --> 02:07:06,719
using humans and reproductive

3288
02:07:11,109 --> 02:07:08,800
experiments that was the question right

3289
02:07:15,030 --> 02:07:11,119
yes okay um

3290
02:07:16,069 --> 02:07:15,040
i don't know who those beings are

3291
02:07:18,069 --> 02:07:16,079
um

3292
02:07:20,470 --> 02:07:18,079
so those are different from the beings

3293
02:07:21,990 --> 02:07:20,480
if they exist that you

3294
02:07:24,709 --> 02:07:22,000
experienced

3295
02:07:27,589 --> 02:07:24,719
absolutely absolutely i didn't i didn't

3296
02:07:30,149 --> 02:07:27,599
experience anything like that um

3297
02:07:31,750 --> 02:07:30,159
and i'm not but i'm not saying that

3298
02:07:33,030 --> 02:07:31,760
anyone else didn't

3299
02:07:34,629 --> 02:07:33,040
you know that that's not what they

3300
02:07:37,510 --> 02:07:34,639
experienced i

3301
02:07:41,350 --> 02:07:37,520
i believe them i just don't know

3302
02:07:42,470 --> 02:07:41,360
who or why to what end i don't know i

3303
02:07:46,709 --> 02:07:42,480
really

3304
02:07:49,990 --> 02:07:46,719
i'm sorry and they they just say that

3305
02:07:55,109 --> 02:07:53,430
that there's a polarity in everything um

3306
02:07:57,750 --> 02:07:55,119
in this cycle where it you know we're in

3307
02:07:59,189 --> 02:07:57,760
this cycle of polarity

3308
02:08:02,550 --> 02:07:59,199
um

3309
02:08:04,870 --> 02:08:02,560
and balance and we're imbalanced

3310
02:08:06,629 --> 02:08:04,880
that are so that our polarity is very

3311
02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:06,639
imbalanced right now

3312
02:08:10,629 --> 02:08:08,320
well going to we've gone a little bit

3313
02:08:12,870 --> 02:08:10,639
over time but i have one final question

3314
02:08:14,709 --> 02:08:12,880
for you that i think is important and

3315
02:08:17,430 --> 02:08:14,719
and may shed some light on your

3316
02:08:19,430 --> 02:08:17,440
experience and these beings and that is

3317
02:08:22,629 --> 02:08:19,440
did you get a sense of where are they

3318
02:08:24,709 --> 02:08:22,639
from are they from an alien star system

3319
02:08:26,870 --> 02:08:24,719
in another solar system

3320
02:08:29,270 --> 02:08:26,880
are they interdimensional beings are

3321
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:29,280
they from another universe are they time

3322
02:08:33,750 --> 02:08:30,880
travelers or

3323
02:08:36,229 --> 02:08:33,760
are they all the above which is a

3324
02:08:39,189 --> 02:08:36,239
strange but crazy thing to think about

3325
02:08:40,390 --> 02:08:39,199
and a possibility

3326
02:08:44,550 --> 02:08:40,400
my

3327
02:08:53,109 --> 02:08:44,560
our

3328
02:08:53,830 --> 02:08:53,119
uh i'm sorry hold on just a moment

3329
02:08:57,109 --> 02:08:53,840
um

3330
02:08:59,910 --> 02:08:57,119
[Music]

3331
02:09:02,390 --> 02:08:59,920
but they they're at a

3332
02:09:05,030 --> 02:09:02,400
level of development

3333
02:09:05,990 --> 02:09:05,040
that they have

3334
02:09:07,750 --> 02:09:06,000
they have

3335
02:09:09,189 --> 02:09:07,760
they've transcended

3336
02:09:10,870 --> 02:09:09,199
um

3337
02:09:11,910 --> 02:09:10,880
those words

3338
02:09:16,550 --> 02:09:11,920
i know

3339
02:09:18,709 --> 02:09:16,560
transcended the things that limit us and

3340
02:09:19,669 --> 02:09:18,719
our current understanding

3341
02:09:21,109 --> 02:09:19,679
um

3342
02:09:22,550 --> 02:09:21,119
and

3343
02:09:24,709 --> 02:09:22,560
that there are

3344
02:09:27,990 --> 02:09:24,719
places um

3345
02:09:29,510 --> 02:09:28,000
that are physical physical locations

3346
02:09:31,430 --> 02:09:29,520
where

3347
02:09:33,189 --> 02:09:31,440
uh

3348
02:09:36,950 --> 02:09:33,199
for lack of a better way of putting it

3349
02:09:39,669 --> 02:09:36,960
the veil is thinner or like doors

3350
02:09:42,310 --> 02:09:39,679
doors can open or like it's almost like

3351
02:09:46,870 --> 02:09:42,320
if you can imagine it

3352
02:09:51,830 --> 02:09:49,990
almost like a spider web okay just

3353
02:09:54,149 --> 02:09:51,840
imagine like you're walking this is i'm

3354
02:09:56,229 --> 02:09:54,159
this is funny okay please just bear with

3355
02:09:58,149 --> 02:09:56,239
me and this helps

3356
02:09:59,830 --> 02:09:58,159
maybe this me describing what they're

3357
02:10:03,189 --> 02:09:59,840
showing me in my process for trying to

3358
02:10:05,910 --> 02:10:03,199
trans you know translate it they so they

3359
02:10:08,550 --> 02:10:05,920
they um they showed what looks almost

3360
02:10:10,149 --> 02:10:08,560
like a spider web between two

3361
02:10:12,950 --> 02:10:10,159
trees

3362
02:10:15,189 --> 02:10:12,960
but it's not it's not an actual web

3363
02:10:17,189 --> 02:10:15,199
like it's not we can't like physically

3364
02:10:18,950 --> 02:10:17,199
feel it but we walk through it and that

3365
02:10:22,310 --> 02:10:18,960
when we go through it like on the other

3366
02:10:24,629 --> 02:10:22,320
side it's different it looks it may look

3367
02:10:26,790 --> 02:10:24,639
like nothing has changed but it's

3368
02:10:28,550 --> 02:10:26,800
actually

3369
02:10:29,669 --> 02:10:28,560
here but not here it's like another

3370
02:10:31,589 --> 02:10:29,679
place

3371
02:10:34,709 --> 02:10:31,599
and so there are

3372
02:10:36,870 --> 02:10:34,719
there's it's like there are

3373
02:10:39,109 --> 02:10:36,880
there are there are like geological and

3374
02:10:40,550 --> 02:10:39,119
physical locations

3375
02:10:42,390 --> 02:10:40,560
that allow

3376
02:10:44,069 --> 02:10:42,400
movement from one place to another quite

3377
02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:44,079
quickly um

3378
02:10:46,149 --> 02:10:45,280
and

3379
02:10:47,270 --> 02:10:46,159
uh

3380
02:10:53,750 --> 02:10:47,280
that

3381
02:10:55,030 --> 02:10:53,760
they're at this point they're they're

3382
02:10:56,550 --> 02:10:55,040
not from

3383
02:10:59,830 --> 02:10:56,560
anywhere anymore that i'm from

3384
02:11:02,229 --> 02:10:59,840
jacksonville florida okay um i don't

3385
02:11:05,270 --> 02:11:02,239
consider myself from jacksonville

3386
02:11:06,870 --> 02:11:05,280
anymore i'm i've been around long enough

3387
02:11:08,550 --> 02:11:06,880
now and lived many different places and

3388
02:11:10,149 --> 02:11:08,560
done many things do you understand what

3389
02:11:12,229 --> 02:11:10,159
i'm saying and so they're showing me

3390
02:11:15,830 --> 02:11:12,239
like that that like we're not from

3391
02:11:20,550 --> 02:11:17,910
okay and i'm sorry but i did have one

3392
02:11:22,629 --> 02:11:20,560
other question that i that i skipped so

3393
02:11:24,229 --> 02:11:22,639
i'm gonna ask it a lot of people are

3394
02:11:25,430 --> 02:11:24,239
asking

3395
02:11:27,669 --> 02:11:25,440
and and these are the people that want

3396
02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:27,679
more proof and evidence if we could get

3397
02:11:31,350 --> 02:11:29,920
an interview of wayne sharing his

3398
02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:31,360
experience

3399
02:11:35,589 --> 02:11:33,520
and and wouldn't that go a long way

3400
02:11:37,430 --> 02:11:35,599
towards proving your story if he would

3401
02:11:39,510 --> 02:11:37,440
at least do like an audio interview with

3402
02:11:41,750 --> 02:11:39,520
me or somebody else recounting his

3403
02:11:43,350 --> 02:11:41,760
experience and backing up

3404
02:11:45,030 --> 02:11:43,360
the experience that you've shared that

3405
02:11:45,830 --> 02:11:45,040
you've shared together

3406
02:11:48,149 --> 02:11:45,840
right

3407
02:11:49,510 --> 02:11:48,159
um and they

3408
02:11:50,550 --> 02:11:49,520
want me to say

3409
02:11:53,669 --> 02:11:50,560
that

3410
02:11:54,870 --> 02:11:53,679
i'm not trying to prove anything

3411
02:11:56,870 --> 02:11:54,880
that

3412
02:12:01,270 --> 02:11:56,880
this is

3413
02:12:02,870 --> 02:12:01,280
that they are doing

3414
02:12:04,310 --> 02:12:02,880
um

3415
02:12:06,790 --> 02:12:04,320
and that we are to

3416
02:12:08,709 --> 02:12:06,800
i know this is very dissatisfying and i

3417
02:12:10,149 --> 02:12:08,719
understand that and i i hear you even

3418
02:12:11,270 --> 02:12:10,159
steven i can

3419
02:12:13,910 --> 02:12:11,280
i get it

3420
02:12:15,109 --> 02:12:13,920
yeah it's a little disappointing yeah

3421
02:12:17,589 --> 02:12:15,119
but that's what they're saying that this

3422
02:12:20,870 --> 02:12:17,599
is a soft disclosure and that you have

3423
02:12:23,109 --> 02:12:20,880
to prepare your minds prepare your

3424
02:12:24,390 --> 02:12:23,119
hearts and minds prepare yourself

3425
02:12:27,830 --> 02:12:24,400
consciously

3426
02:12:29,030 --> 02:12:27,840
for contact stop asking for them to just

3427
02:12:31,589 --> 02:12:29,040
come out

3428
02:12:34,550 --> 02:12:31,599
and you know walk out of the base and

3429
02:12:36,870 --> 02:12:34,560
say hey here we are because we're not

3430
02:12:39,350 --> 02:12:36,880
ready for it right now they're saying

3431
02:12:42,229 --> 02:12:39,360
get yourselves ready

3432
02:12:44,229 --> 02:12:42,239
get yourself ready um

3433
02:12:46,470 --> 02:12:44,239
and i'm sorry i'm seeing the the links

3434
02:12:47,910 --> 02:12:46,480
pop up too so um

3435
02:12:50,229 --> 02:12:47,920
somebody's just mentioning the links to

3436
02:12:52,149 --> 02:12:50,239
your conference your documentary trailer

3437
02:12:53,830 --> 02:12:52,159
and jimmy church appearance if people

3438
02:12:55,830 --> 02:12:53,840
want will be in the video description

3439
02:12:57,669 --> 02:12:55,840
and after the show i'll add your your

3440
02:13:00,229 --> 02:12:57,679
whatever links you want me to add reddit

3441
02:13:03,669 --> 02:13:00,239
links to the chats transcend project or

3442
02:13:05,510 --> 02:13:03,679
any of that i don't have a documentary i

3443
02:13:07,910 --> 02:13:05,520
i have made that very clear i do not

3444
02:13:09,990 --> 02:13:07,920
have a documentary i did not hire anyone

3445
02:13:11,430 --> 02:13:10,000
well there's a trailer though yeah well

3446
02:13:13,030 --> 02:13:11,440
that's not mine it has nothing to do

3447
02:13:15,189 --> 02:13:13,040
with me

3448
02:13:17,030 --> 02:13:15,199
somebody just did that independently yes

3449
02:13:19,030 --> 02:13:17,040
he did that independently and that's

3450
02:13:21,270 --> 02:13:19,040
okay because he's actually um he's

3451
02:13:23,669 --> 02:13:21,280
trying to do you know tyler does great

3452
02:13:26,229 --> 02:13:23,679
work he does great work um

3453
02:13:28,790 --> 02:13:26,239
i am not um i there's no contract

3454
02:13:31,270 --> 02:13:28,800
between us and i'm not affiliated with

3455
02:13:34,550 --> 02:13:31,280
this project um he's trying to do a

3456
02:13:35,990 --> 02:13:34,560
disclosure project for everyone um and

3457
02:13:39,109 --> 02:13:36,000
you know he's trying to do it like a

3458
02:13:40,470 --> 02:13:39,119
legit documentary um i was not happy

3459
02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:40,480
with the

3460
02:13:44,229 --> 02:13:42,320
the naming it anjali and i told him that

3461
02:13:46,870 --> 02:13:44,239
i felt like he had misrepresented to me

3462
02:13:49,109 --> 02:13:46,880
what he had initially you know decided

3463
02:13:52,390 --> 02:13:49,119
that or told me that he his intentions

3464
02:13:54,229 --> 02:13:52,400
were um and he backed that

3465
02:13:55,270 --> 02:13:54,239
up or you know he backed off and said

3466
02:13:58,709 --> 02:13:55,280
you know i'm going to try to do

3467
02:14:00,870 --> 02:13:58,719
something more widespread and um

3468
02:14:04,069 --> 02:14:00,880
but i it's fair i guess that's fair i'm

3469
02:14:05,030 --> 02:14:04,079
not i have not had a single

3470
02:14:06,629 --> 02:14:05,040
um

3471
02:14:08,149 --> 02:14:06,639
i haven't signed any contracts i'm not

3472
02:14:09,589 --> 02:14:08,159
making any money

3473
02:14:10,709 --> 02:14:09,599
um

3474
02:14:14,069 --> 02:14:10,719
these are

3475
02:14:15,189 --> 02:14:14,079
people who are out there doing their

3476
02:14:15,990 --> 02:14:15,199
work

3477
02:14:18,870 --> 02:14:16,000
for

3478
02:14:20,310 --> 02:14:18,880
this disclosure um they have their own

3479
02:14:22,870 --> 02:14:20,320
mission and if there's something that i

3480
02:14:24,709 --> 02:14:22,880
can do to facilitate that like like

3481
02:14:26,709 --> 02:14:24,719
stephen you know i'm here with you

3482
02:14:28,709 --> 02:14:26,719
because you're just trying to understand

3483
02:14:30,550 --> 02:14:28,719
better what's going on i'm just trying

3484
02:14:32,069 --> 02:14:30,560
to understand better sure yeah and i'm

3485
02:14:33,990 --> 02:14:32,079
glad that i'm glad that we did tonight

3486
02:14:37,189 --> 02:14:34,000
because i know so much more about the

3487
02:14:39,270 --> 02:14:37,199
situation and and what may happen next

3488
02:14:40,790 --> 02:14:39,280
and another question somebody asked

3489
02:14:43,430 --> 02:14:40,800
george knapp has had some involvement

3490
02:14:45,270 --> 02:14:43,440
with you and george knapp i believe is

3491
02:14:47,750 --> 02:14:45,280
claiming that he's emailing you and not

3492
02:14:49,830 --> 02:14:47,760
getting a response i guess asking if

3493
02:14:51,030 --> 02:14:49,840
he's coming along or or something like

3494
02:14:54,950 --> 02:14:51,040
that i don't know if you want to address

3495
02:14:57,750 --> 02:14:54,960
that here i guess um i didn't realize

3496
02:14:59,830 --> 02:14:57,760
that that that was happening um i

3497
02:15:01,990 --> 02:14:59,840
i know that uh

3498
02:15:05,430 --> 02:15:02,000
george and i have not really had a lot

3499
02:15:07,830 --> 02:15:05,440
of contact and so um i

3500
02:15:09,030 --> 02:15:07,840
that's all it is is i'm just one person

3501
02:15:10,470 --> 02:15:09,040
with

3502
02:15:12,790 --> 02:15:10,480
hundreds and hundreds of people every

3503
02:15:14,149 --> 02:15:12,800
day trying to reach out and honestly you

3504
02:15:16,950 --> 02:15:14,159
know i'm chronically

3505
02:15:19,109 --> 02:15:16,960
ill and very tired a lot

3506
02:15:21,669 --> 02:15:19,119
i just haven't gotten and he just had a

3507
02:15:22,629 --> 02:15:21,679
two-hour grilling so i have some respect

3508
02:15:24,790 --> 02:15:22,639
for you

3509
02:15:26,229 --> 02:15:24,800
and and finally this is this i've really

3510
02:15:27,669 --> 02:15:26,239
i really hope this is the last question

3511
02:15:29,750 --> 02:15:27,679
i i hate to keep doing this but i can

3512
02:15:32,629 --> 02:15:29,760
keep you here talking for another three

3513
02:15:34,470 --> 02:15:32,639
hours why did angeli deflect about her

3514
02:15:36,310 --> 02:15:34,480
psychedelic escapades when she used to

3515
02:15:38,149 --> 02:15:36,320
laugh about it on reddit charlie wiser

3516
02:15:40,149 --> 02:15:38,159
has proof on her website

3517
02:15:42,149 --> 02:15:40,159
hey i i don't i don't know what the

3518
02:15:45,030 --> 02:15:42,159
point is i've already i don't really

3519
02:15:47,189 --> 02:15:45,040
understand i've already said that i was

3520
02:15:49,270 --> 02:15:47,199
not using psychedelics i've already said

3521
02:15:51,350 --> 02:15:49,280
that i was not an experienced

3522
02:15:54,470 --> 02:15:51,360
psychedelic user

3523
02:15:57,350 --> 02:15:54,480
even when i made that comment on reddit

3524
02:15:59,189 --> 02:15:57,360
and if you look at the comment where i

3525
02:16:01,109 --> 02:15:59,199
was

3526
02:16:02,470 --> 02:16:01,119
encouraging people

3527
02:16:07,990 --> 02:16:02,480
to

3528
02:16:10,470 --> 02:16:08,000
with someone who was saying that you can

3529
02:16:12,069 --> 02:16:10,480
you can have you know a complete

3530
02:16:12,870 --> 02:16:12,079
spiritual awakening

3531
02:16:13,830 --> 02:16:12,880
with

3532
02:16:15,510 --> 02:16:13,840
um

3533
02:16:19,669 --> 02:16:15,520
with psychedelics

3534
02:16:22,310 --> 02:16:19,679
and i was trying to argue with them that

3535
02:16:24,390 --> 02:16:22,320
that that psychedelics is like it's a

3536
02:16:27,189 --> 02:16:24,400
temporary state of mind and that really

3537
02:16:29,430 --> 02:16:27,199
you have to um it's a daily practice and

3538
02:16:32,070 --> 02:16:29,440
you know you want to get

3539
02:16:34,469 --> 02:16:32,080
um meditation as a practice you know

3540
02:16:36,790 --> 02:16:34,479
mindfulness i i mean it's all out there

3541
02:16:39,190 --> 02:16:36,800
guys and and and they just weren't

3542
02:16:42,469 --> 02:16:39,200
taking it and so that's when

3543
02:16:44,469 --> 02:16:42,479
i completely overstated my experience

3544
02:16:48,230 --> 02:16:44,479
and said that i had ex a deeper

3545
02:16:50,870 --> 02:16:48,240
experience with psychedelics than i had

3546
02:16:52,870 --> 02:16:50,880
only so that i could say look i already

3547
02:16:55,750 --> 02:16:52,880
know i've been there i've been exactly

3548
02:16:58,790 --> 02:16:55,760
where you are and i'm telling you it has

3549
02:17:00,709 --> 02:16:58,800
to be a daily mindful practice

3550
02:17:02,790 --> 02:17:00,719
so my heart was in the right place did i

3551
02:17:05,270 --> 02:17:02,800
do it properly i don't know you'd have

3552
02:17:08,230 --> 02:17:05,280
to ask that person maybe maybe they

3553
02:17:10,150 --> 02:17:08,240
started mine meditating i have no idea

3554
02:17:11,830 --> 02:17:10,160
um but i i'm not going to keep

3555
02:17:14,150 --> 02:17:11,840
apologizing for it i've already

3556
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:14,160
explained it

3557
02:17:17,589 --> 02:17:16,000
yeah i this is why it gets so

3558
02:17:19,830 --> 02:17:17,599
frustrating and why i end up blocking

3559
02:17:21,429 --> 02:17:19,840
people because when i explain it they

3560
02:17:24,070 --> 02:17:21,439
don't believe the explanation and they

3561
02:17:25,830 --> 02:17:24,080
don't have to but to continue to say

3562
02:17:28,070 --> 02:17:25,840
that's not true

3563
02:17:29,110 --> 02:17:28,080
is just it's not fair i'm doing the best

3564
02:17:29,990 --> 02:17:29,120
i can

3565
02:17:31,030 --> 02:17:30,000
so

3566
02:17:33,270 --> 02:17:31,040
um

3567
02:17:35,429 --> 02:17:33,280
so that's you know that and honestly i'm

3568
02:17:37,990 --> 02:17:35,439
glad that i got a chance to talk to you

3569
02:17:41,190 --> 02:17:38,000
face to face or such as it is and and

3570
02:17:44,950 --> 02:17:41,200
and you have become more humanized to me

3571
02:17:47,589 --> 02:17:44,960
yeah so not a distant person

3572
02:17:50,309 --> 02:17:47,599
you knew ufo celebrity which is what i

3573
02:17:52,709 --> 02:17:50,319
would call you previously so i think the

3574
02:17:55,030 --> 02:17:52,719
best place to end this is a final

3575
02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:55,040
thought that i had because i'm concerned

3576
02:18:01,270 --> 02:17:58,080
for you okay having talked to you and

3577
02:18:03,030 --> 02:18:01,280
interacted with you and and honestly

3578
02:18:05,750 --> 02:18:03,040
looking into your education and your

3579
02:18:07,349 --> 02:18:05,760
background you know i i've got a lot

3580
02:18:09,270 --> 02:18:07,359
more respect than i did when i was so

3581
02:18:11,190 --> 02:18:09,280
dismissive and just said this story's

3582
02:18:12,950 --> 02:18:11,200
fake these people are fake we know

3583
02:18:13,990 --> 02:18:12,960
that's not true now and i was totally

3584
02:18:14,950 --> 02:18:14,000
wrong

3585
02:18:18,709 --> 02:18:14,960
and

3586
02:18:20,549 --> 02:18:18,719
concern that i have for you

3587
02:18:22,469 --> 02:18:20,559
i know how you would handle this if you

3588
02:18:24,309 --> 02:18:22,479
do this expedition and you come out with

3589
02:18:25,669 --> 02:18:24,319
absolute proof that aliens are real and

3590
02:18:28,469 --> 02:18:25,679
visiting us because that would be

3591
02:18:29,270 --> 02:18:28,479
life-altering world-changing

3592
02:18:31,270 --> 02:18:29,280
thing

3593
02:18:32,309 --> 02:18:31,280
and you'd be you'd go down in history

3594
02:18:33,349 --> 02:18:32,319
forever

3595
02:18:36,389 --> 02:18:33,359
but

3596
02:18:39,270 --> 02:18:36,399
i'm concerned and i wanna ask you are

3597
02:18:41,509 --> 02:18:39,280
you prepared for this whole thing

3598
02:18:44,549 --> 02:18:41,519
falling apart like what if you go there

3599
02:18:47,030 --> 02:18:44,559
the aliens left the cave

3600
02:18:49,669 --> 02:18:47,040
caved in there's nothing there and you

3601
02:18:51,750 --> 02:18:49,679
come up zero and you can't provide any

3602
02:18:52,629 --> 02:18:51,760
proof or any evidence

3603
02:18:56,790 --> 02:18:52,639
how

3604
02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:56,800
happens

3605
02:19:00,469 --> 02:18:58,399
i'm just going to have to handle it like

3606
02:19:01,910 --> 02:19:00,479
everything else i mean what do i do you

3607
02:19:02,950 --> 02:19:01,920
know at that point

3608
02:19:15,030 --> 02:19:02,960
i

3609
02:19:16,070 --> 02:19:15,040
um

3610
02:19:21,030 --> 02:19:16,080
and

3611
02:19:23,509 --> 02:19:21,040
i'm trusting this process is there

3612
02:19:24,309 --> 02:19:23,519
a possibility that

3613
02:19:27,030 --> 02:19:24,319
that

3614
02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:27,040
we could get there and it's you know

3615
02:19:31,030 --> 02:19:30,160
something goes terribly awry and

3616
02:19:32,150 --> 02:19:31,040
um

3617
02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:32,160
and i'm not

3618
02:19:36,469 --> 02:19:34,479
able to bring back that evidence

3619
02:19:38,469 --> 02:19:36,479
i suppose i mean anything's possible

3620
02:19:40,629 --> 02:19:38,479
right so um

3621
02:19:42,790 --> 02:19:40,639
my concern is that you you know this is

3622
02:19:44,709 --> 02:19:42,800
could be very humiliating for you if it

3623
02:19:45,509 --> 02:19:44,719
doesn't go the way that you hope you

3624
02:19:49,670 --> 02:19:45,519
know

3625
02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:49,680
i don't i don't think that i can be

3626
02:19:54,790 --> 02:19:52,080
humiliated out of this because

3627
02:19:58,790 --> 02:19:54,800
um you know personally i i feel like i'm

3628
02:19:59,670 --> 02:19:58,800
being super 100 above the board um

3629
02:20:02,150 --> 02:19:59,680
and

3630
02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:02,160
um i'm not afraid to answer any

3631
02:20:06,710 --> 02:20:04,720
questions and to submit to it well we've

3632
02:20:09,030 --> 02:20:06,720
seen that tonight and i hope that that

3633
02:20:11,429 --> 02:20:09,040
that helps with some of your critics

3634
02:20:13,750 --> 02:20:11,439
you know it's okay i mean if it if it

3635
02:20:15,990 --> 02:20:13,760
doesn't um but

3636
02:20:18,870 --> 02:20:16,000
you know how will i respond i hope

3637
02:20:19,670 --> 02:20:18,880
really well i hope that um

3638
02:20:58,950 --> 02:20:19,680
i

3639
02:21:01,110 --> 02:20:58,960
both um

3640
02:21:02,230 --> 02:21:01,120
so you know they're

3641
02:21:09,110 --> 02:21:02,240
i

3642
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you know

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02:21:13,670 --> 02:21:10,800
i guess it'll just be another day just

3644
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:13,680
like we'll just have to try to figure

3645
02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:16,000
out what the hell happened

3646
02:21:18,710 --> 02:21:17,359
um

3647
02:21:21,030 --> 02:21:18,720
and i don't know what that looks like

3648
02:21:22,870 --> 02:21:21,040
it's certainly not what i want

3649
02:21:25,190 --> 02:21:22,880
clearly um

3650
02:21:27,429 --> 02:21:25,200
and it would be a very difficult time

3651
02:21:30,389 --> 02:21:27,439
not just for me in my life but for a lot

3652
02:21:32,070 --> 02:21:30,399
of people um because they they're having

3653
02:21:36,950 --> 02:21:32,080
you know everybody just

3654
02:21:41,110 --> 02:21:37,990
i don't know

3655
02:21:44,550 --> 02:21:41,120
times are very difficult for people and

3656
02:21:48,230 --> 02:21:44,560
um the best thing that we can always do

3657
02:21:49,990 --> 02:21:48,240
with every moment of every day is

3658
02:21:51,270 --> 02:21:50,000
to

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02:21:52,950 --> 02:21:51,280
decide

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02:21:55,590 --> 02:21:52,960
what we can learn from what we're

3661
02:21:58,710 --> 02:21:55,600
experiencing and i guess that that's

3662
02:22:00,950 --> 02:21:58,720
would be the only healthy way

3663
02:22:03,030 --> 02:22:00,960
um besides probably checking myself into

3664
02:22:04,550 --> 02:22:03,040
a hospital

3665
02:22:06,790 --> 02:22:04,560
yeah that's what i'm worried about you

3666
02:22:08,630 --> 02:22:06,800
know it would be a huge blow after this

3667
02:22:13,110 --> 02:22:08,640
huge build up to be

3668
02:22:16,870 --> 02:22:15,429
yeah like what i would if if something

3669
02:22:18,230 --> 02:22:16,880
like that were to happen i would

3670
02:22:19,429 --> 02:22:18,240
probably

3671
02:22:20,469 --> 02:22:19,439
um

3672
02:22:26,070 --> 02:22:20,479
find

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02:22:28,150 --> 02:22:26,080
some kind of support right a retreat

3674
02:22:31,270 --> 02:22:28,160
somewhere with some

3675
02:22:33,270 --> 02:22:31,280
some shaman or some wise

3676
02:22:36,389 --> 02:22:33,280
spiritual leader who could help me get

3677
02:22:38,710 --> 02:22:36,399
my head back on straight from such just

3678
02:22:41,190 --> 02:22:38,720
a terrible disappointment

3679
02:22:42,790 --> 02:22:41,200
and not just a disappointment but a

3680
02:22:46,870 --> 02:22:42,800
shatter of

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02:22:48,469 --> 02:22:46,880
of my ability to trust my own experience

3682
02:22:50,469 --> 02:22:48,479
sure sure

3683
02:22:51,830 --> 02:22:50,479
well i want to thank you so much and i'm

3684
02:22:54,150 --> 02:22:51,840
i'm really glad that we got this

3685
02:22:56,230 --> 02:22:54,160
opportunity because i i've gone from

3686
02:22:58,870 --> 02:22:56,240
being completely dismissive of you to

3687
02:23:00,870 --> 02:22:58,880
saying being able to say the mountain is

3688
02:23:01,830 --> 02:23:00,880
real the friends that she discussed are

3689
02:23:11,030 --> 02:23:01,840
real

3690
02:23:13,510 --> 02:23:11,040
do additional checking on them and

3691
02:23:15,349 --> 02:23:13,520
report back but i'm confident having

3692
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:15,359
looked everything over that i can say

3693
02:23:19,830 --> 02:23:18,000
that now and i couldn't before and and i

3694
02:23:21,830 --> 02:23:19,840
apologize again for being too dismissive

3695
02:23:23,349 --> 02:23:21,840
because we've seen too many people that

3696
02:23:24,870 --> 02:23:23,359
their educations aren't real their

3697
02:23:27,429 --> 02:23:24,880
backgrounds aren't real they're making

3698
02:23:30,469 --> 02:23:27,439
up fake jobs they never had

3699
02:23:32,309 --> 02:23:30,479
and and i i lumped you in with that how

3700
02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:32,319
did they do that i mean what are they i

3701
02:23:36,070 --> 02:23:34,240
mean money they pay their atom they're

3702
02:23:37,750 --> 02:23:36,080
after money i mean i could there's so

3703
02:23:39,750 --> 02:23:37,760
many different people there was a there

3704
02:23:41,750 --> 02:23:39,760
was a time when there was fake navy

3705
02:23:43,510 --> 02:23:41,760
seals all over and they were saying they

3706
02:23:44,950 --> 02:23:43,520
were battling aliens on mars and

3707
02:23:47,030 --> 02:23:44,960
different things and then it turns out

3708
02:23:48,950 --> 02:23:47,040
they weren't a navy seal they might have

3709
02:23:51,190 --> 02:23:48,960
been a criminal you know so they're just

3710
02:23:53,110 --> 02:23:51,200
making up a story and they run and go

3711
02:23:56,230 --> 02:23:53,120
get the ufo dollars before they get

3712
02:23:58,150 --> 02:23:56,240
found out and i waited to start vetting

3713
02:23:59,750 --> 02:23:58,160
your background because i thought

3714
02:24:01,429 --> 02:23:59,760
somebody's gonna blow this out of the

3715
02:24:04,070 --> 02:24:01,439
water and i won't have to deal you know

3716
02:24:05,830 --> 02:24:04,080
i won't have to do it you know

3717
02:24:07,910 --> 02:24:05,840
so i understand

3718
02:24:10,710 --> 02:24:07,920
really honestly stephen it's okay

3719
02:24:11,830 --> 02:24:10,720
skepticism and like there's a place for

3720
02:24:13,670 --> 02:24:11,840
all of us you've got to have the

3721
02:24:14,550 --> 02:24:13,680
skeptical guide to ask the hard

3722
02:24:15,750 --> 02:24:14,560
questions

3723
02:24:17,349 --> 02:24:15,760
you know

3724
02:24:18,630 --> 02:24:17,359
otherwise people just talk and we don't

3725
02:24:20,550 --> 02:24:18,640
learn as much

3726
02:24:22,550 --> 02:24:20,560
so i i hope that you're okay with what

3727
02:24:24,630 --> 02:24:22,560
happened tonight i promised you that i

3728
02:24:25,830 --> 02:24:24,640
would be respectful and and i hope that

3729
02:24:28,150 --> 02:24:25,840
i was

3730
02:24:29,990 --> 02:24:28,160
and uh at any time and this was

3731
02:24:31,349 --> 02:24:30,000
difficult for me because you know people

3732
02:24:33,190 --> 02:24:31,359
are going to love or hate what we did

3733
02:24:34,790 --> 02:24:33,200
tonight but i think that it moves the

3734
02:24:36,550 --> 02:24:34,800
ball forward and we know more about your

3735
02:24:38,790 --> 02:24:36,560
story your background

3736
02:24:40,469 --> 02:24:38,800
and and everything so i want to thank

3737
02:24:42,309 --> 02:24:40,479
you for having the courage to do it when

3738
02:24:45,590 --> 02:24:42,319
a lot of people said you never would

3739
02:24:47,510 --> 02:24:45,600
here they are thank you that's right and

3740
02:24:50,150 --> 02:24:47,520
i'll come back again if i need to and

3741
02:24:52,389 --> 02:24:50,160
listen um you know

3742
02:24:53,990 --> 02:24:52,399
good luck um hopefully that your

3743
02:24:57,750 --> 02:24:54,000
hopefully your listeners and your

3744
02:24:59,429 --> 02:24:57,760
supporters will will go easy on you um

3745
02:25:01,349 --> 02:24:59,439
well yeah you know there's always the

3746
02:25:03,429 --> 02:25:01,359
critics you know i did the best i could

3747
02:25:05,270 --> 02:25:03,439
i asked as many questions as i could we

3748
02:25:07,510 --> 02:25:05,280
covered a lot of ground i'm satisfied

3749
02:25:10,309 --> 02:25:07,520
with what happened tonight and i hope

3750
02:25:12,389 --> 02:25:10,319
everybody enjoyed it we got

3751
02:25:14,309 --> 02:25:12,399
mostly positive feedback but of course

3752
02:25:15,349 --> 02:25:14,319
you know from your internet interaction

3753
02:25:16,550 --> 02:25:15,359
some people

3754
02:25:18,230 --> 02:25:16,560
they're never going to be happy no

3755
02:25:19,590 --> 02:25:18,240
matter what you say do

3756
02:25:21,349 --> 02:25:19,600
you just do the best thing that you

3757
02:25:24,070 --> 02:25:21,359
could and i'm new at this and doing the

3758
02:25:25,670 --> 02:25:24,080
best i can so every day that's right

3759
02:25:26,950 --> 02:25:25,680
well i want to thank you once again i'm

3760
02:25:28,469 --> 02:25:26,960
going to throw you out of here you can

3761
02:25:29,990 --> 02:25:28,479
just close down your browser and then

3762
02:25:32,150 --> 02:25:30,000
i'm going to just

3763
02:25:33,429 --> 02:25:32,160
uh have a talk with the live chat for a

3764
02:25:35,830 --> 02:25:33,439
while i don't want to keep you for too

3765
02:25:37,990 --> 02:25:35,840
much longer thank you for having me and

3766
02:25:39,830 --> 02:25:38,000
thank you my pleasure thank you very

3767
02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:39,840
much i hope you will come back

3768
02:25:43,990 --> 02:25:41,920
absolutely okay

3769
02:25:46,150 --> 02:25:44,000
especially if you find those aliens i

3770
02:25:48,230 --> 02:25:46,160
want the exclusive interview once you

3771
02:25:49,670 --> 02:25:48,240
find those aliens i want to be the first

3772
02:25:51,110 --> 02:25:49,680
guy to interview you once the proof

3773
02:25:52,550 --> 02:25:51,120
comes out

3774
02:25:54,630 --> 02:25:52,560
we'll talk

3775
02:25:56,469 --> 02:25:54,640
all right great thank you good night

3776
02:25:58,950 --> 02:25:56,479
anjali

3777
02:26:01,670 --> 02:25:58,960
all right friends there we go there we

3778
02:26:04,710 --> 02:26:01,680
have it what an amazing evening it has

3779
02:26:06,309 --> 02:26:04,720
been i uh you know i apologize to

3780
02:26:08,309 --> 02:26:06,319
anybody that thinks i didn't ask hard

3781
02:26:10,630 --> 02:26:08,319
enough questions but we wanted to be

3782
02:26:12,630 --> 02:26:10,640
respectful here we wanted to be

3783
02:26:14,550 --> 02:26:12,640
um

3784
02:26:16,630 --> 02:26:14,560
just as we promised you know a lot of

3785
02:26:18,790 --> 02:26:16,640
people on twitter were telling her don't

3786
02:26:20,630 --> 02:26:18,800
go on his show he's going to be nasty

3787
02:26:22,389 --> 02:26:20,640
he's going to humiliate you

3788
02:26:24,630 --> 02:26:22,399
he's going to make fun of you and that

3789
02:26:25,670 --> 02:26:24,640
wasn't what tonight was about

3790
02:26:27,590 --> 02:26:25,680
so

3791
02:26:29,750 --> 02:26:27,600
i'm here we're going to read the super

3792
02:26:31,270 --> 02:26:29,760
chat donations and i apologize for

3793
02:26:33,030 --> 02:26:31,280
skipping them but i really thought it

3794
02:26:35,750 --> 02:26:33,040
best if we not interrupt the interview

3795
02:26:39,190 --> 02:26:35,760
every few minutes i did go through and

3796
02:26:40,550 --> 02:26:39,200
read the super chat questions first

3797
02:26:43,030 --> 02:26:40,560
so we're just going to read out the

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02:26:44,950 --> 02:26:43,040
super chats uh tonight because most of

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02:26:47,349 --> 02:26:44,960
them have passed so we have welcome to

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02:26:49,750 --> 02:26:47,359
the show kind and generous um

3801
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great britain pounds 99 cents with a

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02:26:54,150 --> 02:26:52,560
super sticker a unicorn

3803
02:26:55,990 --> 02:26:54,160
and here tonight i feel like we had a

3804
02:26:57,590 --> 02:26:56,000
unicorn because we actually have

3805
02:27:00,070 --> 02:26:57,600
somebody telling stories about aliens

3806
02:27:02,469 --> 02:27:00,080
whose education is not fake whose

3807
02:27:04,710 --> 02:27:02,479
military service is not fake

3808
02:27:06,309 --> 02:27:04,720
whose claimed credentials are not fake

3809
02:27:07,830 --> 02:27:06,319
whose employment history is not fake

3810
02:27:09,750 --> 02:27:07,840
that's kind of like a unicorn in this

3811
02:27:11,270 --> 02:27:09,760
ufology thing to me

3812
02:27:13,590 --> 02:27:11,280
so i give her a lot of credit that at

3813
02:27:16,870 --> 02:27:13,600
least her background is real she's not

3814
02:27:18,870 --> 02:27:16,880
making that up f graph 72 with the kind

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and generous us two dollar super chat

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says magic poof light this puff puff and

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02:27:24,389 --> 02:27:23,359
pass this great

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um

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zofa

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with a question that we asked about

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02:27:31,110 --> 02:27:29,359
describing the mantids kind and generous

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02:27:33,349 --> 02:27:31,120
five dollar great britain pounds thank

3823
02:27:35,429 --> 02:27:33,359
you very much eric stitt with a question

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02:27:37,750 --> 02:27:35,439
that we did ask anjali with a kind and

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02:27:40,230 --> 02:27:37,760
generous ten dollar super chat donation

3826
02:27:42,870 --> 02:27:40,240
ian burrell with kind and generous three

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02:27:46,150 --> 02:27:42,880
dollar super chat donation ellen fox

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02:27:47,750 --> 02:27:46,160
with a question that we did ask anjali

3829
02:27:49,590 --> 02:27:47,760
um

3830
02:27:51,590 --> 02:27:49,600
about elon musk that was a fun question

3831
02:27:53,670 --> 02:27:51,600
kind and generous 499

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super chat and we have lisa bowden with

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02:27:58,790 --> 02:27:56,720
a kind and generous 10 super chat with a

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02:28:01,349 --> 02:27:58,800
question we asked do the aliens mean us

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02:28:04,790 --> 02:28:01,359
any harm and we have jim morris with a

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02:28:06,150 --> 02:28:04,800
kind and generous 20 dollar super chat

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02:28:09,670 --> 02:28:08,080
uh i want to thank all of you for your

3839
02:28:13,670 --> 02:28:09,680
kindness your generosity and your

3840
02:28:15,510 --> 02:28:13,680
support uh joe with the late one here

3841
02:28:17,750 --> 02:28:15,520
kind and generous five dollar super chat

3842
02:28:20,710 --> 02:28:17,760
good job tonight come to denver for a

3843
02:28:23,190 --> 02:28:20,720
good time i will take that as a

3844
02:28:26,870 --> 02:28:23,200
invitation if i'm ever in in denver joe

3845
02:28:29,030 --> 02:28:26,880
i'm looking up you alien joe

3846
02:28:31,510 --> 02:28:29,040
we can have some drinks

3847
02:28:33,510 --> 02:28:31,520
and that girl jessica says i got a hello

3848
02:28:35,030 --> 02:28:33,520
from the aliens and people are like

3849
02:28:37,349 --> 02:28:35,040
you're not gonna say i don't know what

3850
02:28:40,710 --> 02:28:37,359
to say she said the aliens said hello to

3851
02:28:42,710 --> 02:28:40,720
me i you know i don't know how they do

3852
02:28:45,110 --> 02:28:42,720
that but apparently the aliens said

3853
02:28:48,469 --> 02:28:45,120
hello i said it again you're right the

3854
02:28:50,150 --> 02:28:48,479
beings i'm sorry it's kind of weird they

3855
02:28:51,830 --> 02:28:50,160
don't like being called aliens they want

3856
02:28:54,389 --> 02:28:51,840
to be called beings but i will respect

3857
02:28:56,469 --> 02:28:54,399
their wishes and say aliens and yes

3858
02:28:58,150 --> 02:28:56,479
praise the cash friend and so we want to

3859
02:29:00,550 --> 02:28:58,160
thank all the kind and generous super

3860
02:29:03,190 --> 02:29:00,560
chat donators for their kindness for

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02:29:05,030 --> 02:29:03,200
their generosity and their support it we

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02:29:07,510 --> 02:29:05,040
are a viewer supported show and every

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02:29:10,070 --> 02:29:07,520
dollar goes into us producing

3864
02:29:12,150 --> 02:29:10,080
more quality content just for you i'm

3865
02:29:14,469 --> 02:29:12,160
going to remind my listeners if you are

3866
02:29:16,150 --> 02:29:14,479
listening to this in audio podcast land

3867
02:29:18,150 --> 02:29:16,160
you're missing half the fun which is all

3868
02:29:20,230 --> 02:29:18,160
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3869
02:29:21,830 --> 02:29:20,240
the guest questions too go over to

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02:29:23,830 --> 02:29:21,840
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3871
02:29:25,349 --> 02:29:23,840
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02:29:27,429 --> 02:29:25,359
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02:29:29,270 --> 02:29:27,439
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02:29:31,510 --> 02:29:29,280
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3875
02:29:34,389 --> 02:29:31,520
ask me questions the guest questions and

3876
02:29:36,710 --> 02:29:34,399
interact with this incredible live chat

3877
02:29:39,270 --> 02:29:36,720
i want to remind everybody to follow me

3878
02:29:40,630 --> 02:29:39,280
at stevencambian on twitter

3879
02:29:42,790 --> 02:29:40,640
that's really the best place to know

3880
02:29:44,550 --> 02:29:42,800
about upcoming shows news about shows

3881
02:29:47,110 --> 02:29:44,560
and things like that i want to thank my

3882
02:29:49,670 --> 02:29:47,120
fellow show hosts who sent me questions

3883
02:29:52,230 --> 02:29:49,680
i want to thank uh especially want to

3884
02:29:53,990 --> 02:29:52,240
thank uh

3885
02:29:55,750 --> 02:29:54,000
people who have helped me with this

3886
02:29:57,349 --> 02:29:55,760
research it's really not me who found

3887
02:29:58,870 --> 02:29:57,359
wayne and the mountain and found out

3888
02:29:59,830 --> 02:29:58,880
that it was true

3889
02:30:02,630 --> 02:29:59,840
uh

3890
02:30:09,030 --> 02:30:07,590
it is really a team right it is a team

3891
02:30:09,990 --> 02:30:09,040
of

3892
02:30:13,270 --> 02:30:10,000
people

3893
02:30:15,270 --> 02:30:13,280
we've had james a conrad contributing

3894
02:30:18,389 --> 02:30:15,280
we've had charlie wiser

3895
02:30:21,990 --> 02:30:18,399
uh commenting and contributing research

3896
02:30:23,830 --> 02:30:22,000
and proof and evidence and imagine that

3897
02:30:25,990 --> 02:30:23,840
now uh

3898
02:30:29,270 --> 02:30:26,000
ed is asking if the the mountain is in

3899
02:30:31,510 --> 02:30:29,280
uf usa or mexico

3900
02:30:33,510 --> 02:30:31,520
and is that

3901
02:30:35,190 --> 02:30:33,520
yeah that is super chat so thank you for

3902
02:30:36,950 --> 02:30:35,200
the kind and generous super chat it is

3903
02:30:38,870 --> 02:30:36,960
in the united states she stated that it

3904
02:30:39,670 --> 02:30:38,880
is in the mojave desert

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02:30:41,750 --> 02:30:39,680
uh

3906
02:30:43,830 --> 02:30:41,760
and so i feel confident in saying it's

3907
02:30:46,309 --> 02:30:43,840
okay for me to spill the beans on that

3908
02:30:48,389 --> 02:30:46,319
if the mountain is in the united states

3909
02:30:50,790 --> 02:30:48,399
in the mojave desert

3910
02:30:51,990 --> 02:30:50,800
uh but back to praising the cash i want

3911
02:30:53,750 --> 02:30:52,000
to thank you all for kindness your

3912
02:30:55,910 --> 02:30:53,760
generosity and support and for helping

3913
02:30:57,990 --> 02:30:55,920
us keep the show going by helping us

3914
02:31:05,190 --> 02:30:58,000
praise the cash friends praise the cash

3915
02:31:09,010 --> 02:31:07,429
you're watching

3916
02:31:15,429 --> 02:31:09,020
praise cash

3917
02:31:18,389 --> 02:31:17,030
where'd you guys create the guy's crazy

3918
02:31:19,850 --> 02:31:18,399
cash

3919
02:31:25,590 --> 02:31:19,860
thank you for your kindness

3920
02:31:28,550 --> 02:31:27,190
where'd you guys bring the guy's crazy

3921
02:31:30,870 --> 02:31:28,560
cash

3922
02:31:32,790 --> 02:31:30,880
thank you for your kindness thank you

3923
02:31:37,480 --> 02:31:32,800
for your generosity

3924
02:31:42,150 --> 02:31:37,490
crazy cash crazy cash raise the cash

3925
02:31:44,870 --> 02:31:43,429
thank you all for your kindness your

3926
02:31:46,710 --> 02:31:44,880
generosity and support we've got one

3927
02:31:48,870 --> 02:31:46,720
more bit of business just to look into

3928
02:31:50,389 --> 02:31:48,880
because i'm going to there's three ways

3929
02:31:52,150 --> 02:31:50,399
that you can support our show uh

3930
02:31:53,990 --> 02:31:52,160
financially you could join our patreon

3931
02:31:56,630 --> 02:31:54,000
for as little as a dollar a month you

3932
02:31:59,910 --> 02:31:56,640
can send a paypal donation and the links

3933
02:32:01,429 --> 02:31:59,920
to do that are in the description

3934
02:32:03,190 --> 02:32:01,439
so we have

3935
02:32:06,230 --> 02:32:03,200
a kind and generous

3936
02:32:08,309 --> 02:32:06,240
paypal donation of uh

3937
02:32:10,950 --> 02:32:08,319
let me let me look at that i'm sorry

3938
02:32:13,270 --> 02:32:10,960
bear with me friends a five dollar

3939
02:32:15,750 --> 02:32:13,280
in support of truth seekers show

3940
02:32:16,790 --> 02:32:15,760
and that is from the initials m.a i want

3941
02:32:18,870 --> 02:32:16,800
to thank you for your kindness your

3942
02:32:21,349 --> 02:32:18,880
generosity and support and encourage you

3943
02:32:23,030 --> 02:32:21,359
you too can sign up on patreon

3944
02:32:26,309 --> 02:32:23,040
uh for as little as a dollar a month we

3945
02:32:28,630 --> 02:32:26,319
have backstage view we uh show people

3946
02:32:30,550 --> 02:32:28,640
sort of backstage what's happening at

3947
02:32:33,030 --> 02:32:30,560
the show you get a backstage pass for as

3948
02:32:35,510 --> 02:32:33,040
little as a dollar a month extra content

3949
02:32:38,950 --> 02:32:35,520
that we don't make public and also a

3950
02:32:41,990 --> 02:32:38,960
monthly journal i put my music projects

3951
02:32:44,870 --> 02:32:42,000
on there so you get some songs as well

3952
02:32:54,469 --> 02:32:44,880
and you get sort of see things before

3953
02:32:58,230 --> 02:32:56,469
thank you for the reminder

3954
02:33:00,230 --> 02:32:58,240
mortimer james reminding me that spooky

3955
02:33:02,630 --> 02:33:00,240
deserves some coffee money

3956
02:33:04,309 --> 02:33:02,640
she does such good work yes spooky did

3957
02:33:05,590 --> 02:33:04,319
the um

3958
02:33:08,309 --> 02:33:05,600
did this

3959
02:33:10,630 --> 02:33:08,319
um thumbnail for tonight and helped me

3960
02:33:12,550 --> 02:33:10,640
prepare for this whole show

3961
02:33:14,710 --> 02:33:12,560
this has been our most attended show

3962
02:33:16,790 --> 02:33:14,720
ever i think we had

3963
02:33:18,230 --> 02:33:16,800
450 people in the live chat at the

3964
02:33:19,910 --> 02:33:18,240
height of this which i'm completely

3965
02:33:22,070 --> 02:33:19,920
totally blown away by i can't believe

3966
02:33:25,270 --> 02:33:22,080
that that many people showed up but it

3967
02:33:28,790 --> 02:33:25,280
shows you what interest there is

3968
02:33:31,270 --> 02:33:28,800
now on to uh i got uh i have something

3969
02:33:34,389 --> 02:33:31,280
that i gotta address here

3970
02:33:37,590 --> 02:33:34,399
and uh

3971
02:33:40,309 --> 02:33:37,600
you know i i i might you know what i

3972
02:33:45,990 --> 02:33:40,319
might not even no i'm i'm gonna do it

3973
02:33:56,469 --> 02:33:48,230
uh i just have to tweet something really

3974
02:34:00,550 --> 02:33:58,309
all right now i've tweeted out what i

3975
02:34:02,469 --> 02:34:00,560
wanted to tweet out so

3976
02:34:04,790 --> 02:34:02,479
along with everything going everything

3977
02:34:06,950 --> 02:34:04,800
went pretty positively tonight i i

3978
02:34:08,710 --> 02:34:06,960
really tried to stay on the positive

3979
02:34:10,469 --> 02:34:08,720
side of things and

3980
02:34:12,389 --> 02:34:10,479
this and that but there's always

3981
02:34:13,990 --> 02:34:12,399
somebody right

3982
02:34:15,590 --> 02:34:14,000
messing with my zen

3983
02:34:18,230 --> 02:34:15,600
there's always somebody messing with my

3984
02:34:21,510 --> 02:34:19,910
all right let's

3985
02:34:27,190 --> 02:34:21,520
take a look here you're just going to

3986
02:34:31,830 --> 02:34:29,429
all right

3987
02:34:34,230 --> 02:34:31,840
another show host says please for the

3988
02:34:37,990 --> 02:34:34,240
love of god do not promote this douche

3989
02:34:39,590 --> 02:34:38,000
on the ftb feed thank you so much uh

3990
02:34:42,309 --> 02:34:39,600
that's a hashtag

3991
02:34:45,910 --> 02:34:42,319
jimmy church you don't own a hashtag

3992
02:34:47,590 --> 02:34:45,920
so henceforth i am gonna hashtag every

3993
02:34:49,190 --> 02:34:47,600
single show i do

3994
02:34:50,950 --> 02:34:49,200
with that hashtag

3995
02:34:53,349 --> 02:34:50,960
with other relevant hashtags but i'm

3996
02:34:55,190 --> 02:34:53,359
gonna do it with that one too because

3997
02:34:57,349 --> 02:34:55,200
here's a message for you jimmy church

3998
02:34:59,830 --> 02:34:57,359
you got the first interview how much

3999
02:35:02,150 --> 02:34:59,840
research did you did

4000
02:35:05,270 --> 02:35:02,160
did you verify her employment

4001
02:35:07,190 --> 02:35:05,280
did you verify her military service

4002
02:35:09,750 --> 02:35:07,200
did you verify

4003
02:35:11,750 --> 02:35:09,760
her employment history

4004
02:35:13,590 --> 02:35:11,760
did you verify

4005
02:35:16,630 --> 02:35:13,600
and somehow

4006
02:35:18,070 --> 02:35:16,640
for a miracle through a miracle find

4007
02:35:19,670 --> 02:35:18,080
that the people that she was talking

4008
02:35:21,670 --> 02:35:19,680
about were real

4009
02:35:23,110 --> 02:35:21,680
were you pouring over satellite maps for

4010
02:35:24,830 --> 02:35:23,120
two weeks looking for that alien

4011
02:35:26,469 --> 02:35:24,840
mountain

4012
02:35:28,550 --> 02:35:26,479
no

4013
02:35:30,550 --> 02:35:28,560
but i was

4014
02:35:33,510 --> 02:35:30,560
he could say whatever he's gonna say

4015
02:35:35,349 --> 02:35:33,520
his interview was a softball ufo circle

4016
02:35:37,510 --> 02:35:35,359
jerk and we didn't do that tonight

4017
02:35:39,590 --> 02:35:37,520
despite what people say i believe that

4018
02:35:41,750 --> 02:35:39,600
it was a good interview we asked hard

4019
02:35:43,830 --> 02:35:41,760
challenging questions we pushed her for

4020
02:35:45,510 --> 02:35:43,840
more information more evidence we didn't

4021
02:35:47,830 --> 02:35:45,520
just let her recount the same story that

4022
02:35:48,950 --> 02:35:47,840
she told in her press conference

4023
02:35:50,230 --> 02:35:48,960
so

4024
02:35:52,550 --> 02:35:50,240
he's going to say whatever he's going to

4025
02:35:54,550 --> 02:35:52,560
say he's just a little butt hurt

4026
02:35:57,030 --> 02:35:54,560
that's all right jimmy get over it get

4027
02:35:59,270 --> 02:35:57,040
over it jimmy because i'm coming for you

4028
02:36:00,230 --> 02:35:59,280
you don't own a hashtag

4029
02:36:02,150 --> 02:36:00,240
buddy

4030
02:36:04,070 --> 02:36:02,160
you don't own a hashtag i can hashtag

4031
02:36:05,670 --> 02:36:04,080
whatever i want and so can people

4032
02:36:07,910 --> 02:36:05,680
sharing my show

4033
02:36:10,389 --> 02:36:07,920
maybe they were hashtagging it so people

4034
02:36:11,910 --> 02:36:10,399
can compare and contrast between our two

4035
02:36:14,070 --> 02:36:11,920
interviews and you know i was kind

4036
02:36:15,990 --> 02:36:14,080
enough to even include your interview in

4037
02:36:17,110 --> 02:36:16,000
the about section of my show and i

4038
02:36:19,510 --> 02:36:17,120
didn't say anything negative or

4039
02:36:21,830 --> 02:36:19,520
derogatory about your interview but you

4040
02:36:24,150 --> 02:36:21,840
don't want people to hear mine right

4041
02:36:26,630 --> 02:36:24,160
shows what a great guy he is why don't

4042
02:36:29,590 --> 02:36:26,640
you go jimmy church and sell some more

4043
02:36:30,630 --> 02:36:29,600
fake garbage on your show why don't you

4044
02:36:32,630 --> 02:36:30,640
sell your

4045
02:36:35,270 --> 02:36:32,640
listeners some more med bed sessions for

4046
02:36:37,590 --> 02:36:35,280
250 or some more guests telling people

4047
02:36:40,309 --> 02:36:37,600
that they could cure autism with camo

4048
02:36:42,630 --> 02:36:40,319
milk and essential oils jimmy church why

4049
02:36:45,750 --> 02:36:42,640
do you do that all right now i'm not

4050
02:36:48,230 --> 02:36:45,760
gonna let him upset my zen okay had a

4051
02:36:51,750 --> 02:36:48,240
good night tonight i had a good night

4052
02:36:54,070 --> 02:36:51,760
and you know i'm not gonna

4053
02:36:55,429 --> 02:36:54,080
get too negative but you know some

4054
02:36:57,349 --> 02:36:55,439
things i have to address and when you

4055
02:36:59,270 --> 02:36:57,359
call me a douche

4056
02:37:01,510 --> 02:36:59,280
on your public twitter feed what do you

4057
02:37:02,870 --> 02:37:01,520
think i'm gonna do right what do you

4058
02:37:05,750 --> 02:37:02,880
think i'm gonna do

4059
02:37:07,750 --> 02:37:05,760
just ignore that

4060
02:37:11,190 --> 02:37:07,760
you don't own a hashtag that's what i'll

4061
02:37:14,070 --> 02:37:11,200
say if people want to hashtag that

4062
02:37:17,590 --> 02:37:14,080
deal with it bro deal with it you have

4063
02:37:20,230 --> 02:37:17,600
been able to sell scams and have guests

4064
02:37:22,389 --> 02:37:20,240
selling scams on your show for years you

4065
02:37:24,630 --> 02:37:22,399
made a lot of money selling garbage and

4066
02:37:26,950 --> 02:37:24,640
now there's a new person in town that is

4067
02:37:28,950 --> 02:37:26,960
challenging you that is saying you don't

4068
02:37:31,910 --> 02:37:28,960
care about your audience you're letting

4069
02:37:33,590 --> 02:37:31,920
people sell literal new age scams on

4070
02:37:35,030 --> 02:37:33,600
your show

4071
02:37:37,030 --> 02:37:35,040
and you don't like that

4072
02:37:38,950 --> 02:37:37,040
so every time that you sell a new age

4073
02:37:40,309 --> 02:37:38,960
scammer on your show i'm gonna talk

4074
02:37:43,270 --> 02:37:40,319
about it jimmy church and i'm gonna

4075
02:37:45,429 --> 02:37:43,280
hashtag it ftb because i have the right

4076
02:37:47,190 --> 02:37:45,439
to do that now i'm getting upset all

4077
02:37:49,429 --> 02:37:47,200
right gonna come

4078
02:37:52,950 --> 02:37:49,439
get my zen back it's okay

4079
02:37:58,630 --> 02:37:55,510
jimmy church is blocking everyone who

4080
02:38:00,870 --> 02:37:58,640
retweets me that is beautiful block them

4081
02:38:02,710 --> 02:38:00,880
all they'll come to my show instead of

4082
02:38:05,190 --> 02:38:02,720
yours from there on jimmy church because

4083
02:38:07,670 --> 02:38:05,200
i don't run ufo circle jerks all the

4084
02:38:09,110 --> 02:38:07,680
time you do

4085
02:38:11,750 --> 02:38:09,120
all right

4086
02:38:14,950 --> 02:38:11,760
we're over with this with this loser

4087
02:38:17,429 --> 02:38:14,960
right what's this guy like pushing 60

4088
02:38:20,790 --> 02:38:17,439
still acting like i'm cool you should

4089
02:38:23,270 --> 02:38:20,800
see how cool my studio is it's so cruel

4090
02:38:24,150 --> 02:38:23,280
in here i wish you could see how cool it

4091
02:38:25,510 --> 02:38:24,160
is

4092
02:38:27,750 --> 02:38:25,520
great

4093
02:38:30,150 --> 02:38:27,760
and sharashi is asking please organize a

4094
02:38:32,710 --> 02:38:30,160
part two of this interview i will try i

4095
02:38:34,550 --> 02:38:32,720
i'm gonna try to do that right yeah and

4096
02:38:37,510 --> 02:38:34,560
i'm chilled i'm i am chilled out you

4097
02:38:39,830 --> 02:38:37,520
know i'm okay i'm okay he upset me okay

4098
02:38:41,190 --> 02:38:39,840
i'm human but you know overall tonight

4099
02:38:42,950 --> 02:38:41,200
was very positive we want to keep it

4100
02:38:45,349 --> 02:38:42,960
that way

4101
02:38:47,110 --> 02:38:45,359
um and and that's where we're at

4102
02:38:48,630 --> 02:38:47,120
so i'll take some comments and questions

4103
02:38:50,469 --> 02:38:48,640
from the chat but we're already at two

4104
02:38:52,150 --> 02:38:50,479
hours and 38 minutes and i wanted to

4105
02:38:55,110 --> 02:38:52,160
keep this under two hours that didn't

4106
02:38:57,030 --> 02:38:55,120
work out because uh you know after party

4107
02:38:58,790 --> 02:38:57,040
on the discord absolutely we'll do an

4108
02:39:00,070 --> 02:38:58,800
after party on the discord

4109
02:39:01,830 --> 02:39:00,080
uh

4110
02:39:03,590 --> 02:39:01,840
nicholas karupas has been blocked from

4111
02:39:05,830 --> 02:39:03,600
fade to black for three years i'm gonna

4112
02:39:07,349 --> 02:39:05,840
do i'm gonna make a whole video and

4113
02:39:09,270 --> 02:39:07,359
we're gonna make it funny like have you

4114
02:39:11,349 --> 02:39:09,280
been blocked by

4115
02:39:13,030 --> 02:39:11,359
uh this show host

4116
02:39:14,070 --> 02:39:13,040
uh because you asked a question he

4117
02:39:15,750 --> 02:39:14,080
didn't like

4118
02:39:18,309 --> 02:39:15,760
because he's an intellectual weakling

4119
02:39:20,550 --> 02:39:18,319
and he can't take questions then fine

4120
02:39:22,469 --> 02:39:20,560
come and and come to our show where

4121
02:39:25,030 --> 02:39:22,479
you're allowed to ask questions and i

4122
02:39:26,309 --> 02:39:25,040
have to say look i understand some

4123
02:39:28,309 --> 02:39:26,319
people tonight were like you didn't ask

4124
02:39:30,070 --> 02:39:28,319
hard enough i was trying my best to ask

4125
02:39:32,790 --> 02:39:30,080
hard questions but but still be

4126
02:39:35,510 --> 02:39:32,800
respectful and not be nasty you don't

4127
02:39:36,830 --> 02:39:35,520
need to be uh

4128
02:39:40,469 --> 02:39:36,840
needs to be

4129
02:39:42,710 --> 02:39:40,479
nasty all right and uh

4130
02:39:44,150 --> 02:39:42,720
miss jackalope johnson by what methods

4131
02:39:47,270 --> 02:39:44,160
have you verified the mountain wayne are

4132
02:39:51,510 --> 02:39:47,280
real by public records by

4133
02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:51,520
speaking to him on the phone once by uh

4134
02:39:56,150 --> 02:39:54,000
real estate records by satellite maps

4135
02:39:59,270 --> 02:39:56,160
showing his hundred plus acre property

4136
02:40:02,150 --> 02:39:59,280
and the mountain that is on it and uh

4137
02:40:03,990 --> 02:40:02,160
through anjali's verification

4138
02:40:06,150 --> 02:40:04,000
and uh

4139
02:40:07,830 --> 02:40:06,160
yeah that's where we're at ian burrell

4140
02:40:09,990 --> 02:40:07,840
says you did a great job steven i i

4141
02:40:12,550 --> 02:40:10,000
think we did pretty good and i'm okay

4142
02:40:13,429 --> 02:40:12,560
with things as as they you know

4143
02:40:15,349 --> 02:40:13,439
look

4144
02:40:17,670 --> 02:40:15,359
i got to be honest with you sometimes i

4145
02:40:19,590 --> 02:40:17,680
do an interview and later i beat myself

4146
02:40:20,870 --> 02:40:19,600
up i go i should have asked this i

4147
02:40:22,790 --> 02:40:20,880
should have asked that i should have

4148
02:40:24,950 --> 02:40:22,800
asked i should have went harder i should

4149
02:40:27,910 --> 02:40:24,960
have went softer and i pick it apart in

4150
02:40:30,230 --> 02:40:27,920
my brain and i'm not very satisfied but

4151
02:40:32,150 --> 02:40:30,240
tonight i i'm at least satisfied i did

4152
02:40:33,910 --> 02:40:32,160
what i set out to do which is ask this

4153
02:40:36,710 --> 02:40:33,920
huge list of questions that nobody else

4154
02:40:38,710 --> 02:40:36,720
could ask her i got to so for that i'm

4155
02:40:40,630 --> 02:40:38,720
thankful both to her and to everybody

4156
02:40:41,510 --> 02:40:40,640
here that came into the audience

4157
02:40:42,790 --> 02:40:41,520
um

4158
02:40:44,790 --> 02:40:42,800
i think

4159
02:40:46,870 --> 02:40:44,800
i'm satisfied i'm not gonna say it did a

4160
02:40:49,190 --> 02:40:46,880
great job or even a good job i'm gonna

4161
02:40:51,670 --> 02:40:49,200
say i did a satisfactory job and that's

4162
02:40:53,590 --> 02:40:51,680
all i can ask for sometimes

4163
02:40:55,910 --> 02:40:53,600
i'm human i know some of you would have

4164
02:40:57,830 --> 02:40:55,920
asked different questions or asked her

4165
02:40:59,590 --> 02:40:57,840
harder questions or pushed her more or

4166
02:41:01,190 --> 02:40:59,600
been you know

4167
02:41:03,910 --> 02:41:01,200
even nasty to her that wasn't my

4168
02:41:04,710 --> 02:41:03,920
intention here so that's where we're at

4169
02:41:06,309 --> 02:41:04,720
uh

4170
02:41:07,349 --> 02:41:06,319
nicholas krupa says you run a great show

4171
02:41:09,190 --> 02:41:07,359
well done

4172
02:41:11,110 --> 02:41:09,200
yeah

4173
02:41:13,190 --> 02:41:11,120
i uh and people are telling me i did

4174
02:41:15,750 --> 02:41:13,200
well so we'll just take it at that

4175
02:41:18,870 --> 02:41:17,349
yeah

4176
02:41:20,230 --> 02:41:18,880
the higher being said that nobody could

4177
02:41:22,070 --> 02:41:20,240
own the earth so you could go on to the

4178
02:41:25,590 --> 02:41:22,080
mountain and technically it wouldn't be

4179
02:41:26,469 --> 02:41:25,600
trespassing yeah i agree with you

4180
02:41:28,469 --> 02:41:26,479
uh

4181
02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:28,479
trouble mine says they admire me brass

4182
02:41:33,110 --> 02:41:30,880
balls this guy has yeah

4183
02:41:35,190 --> 02:41:33,120
that's where that's where we're at and

4184
02:41:37,670 --> 02:41:35,200
you can join the truth seekers

4185
02:41:39,110 --> 02:41:37,680
discord right here thanks to sixth sense

4186
02:41:41,429 --> 02:41:39,120
and i want to thank all the chat room

4187
02:41:43,349 --> 02:41:41,439
monitors i i was watching as closely as

4188
02:41:45,269 --> 02:41:43,359
i could but i think and i also want to

4189
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:45,279
thank the entire audience because i

4190
02:41:48,630 --> 02:41:46,960
think the entire audience was more or

4191
02:41:50,870 --> 02:41:48,640
less respectful people were asking

4192
02:41:52,550 --> 02:41:50,880
questions but nobody was really nasty we

4193
02:41:54,710 --> 02:41:52,560
had matthew riot bailed out i'm sorry

4194
02:41:56,950 --> 02:41:54,720
you did i'm sorry you you didn't like

4195
02:41:59,030 --> 02:41:56,960
the questions you know i i did my best

4196
02:42:01,269 --> 02:41:59,040
here matthew riot and i'm sad that you

4197
02:42:03,269 --> 02:42:01,279
jumped out early scott brown is here and

4198
02:42:04,870 --> 02:42:03,279
said i did a great job steve that's high

4199
02:42:07,349 --> 02:42:04,880
praise coming from scott brown who's

4200
02:42:10,070 --> 02:42:07,359
just as skeptical as me about all this

4201
02:42:11,110 --> 02:42:10,080
stuff right

4202
02:42:13,429 --> 02:42:11,120
oh

4203
02:42:16,389 --> 02:42:13,439
boy what a strange world and i also i

4204
02:42:17,910 --> 02:42:16,399
saw cw channel in the live chat earlier

4205
02:42:20,150 --> 02:42:17,920
and i want to say

4206
02:42:22,630 --> 02:42:20,160
i'm gonna i'm gonna meet him soon in

4207
02:42:25,670 --> 02:42:22,640
person and when i do i'm not sure if i'm

4208
02:42:26,469 --> 02:42:25,680
gonna hug him or punch him in the face

4209
02:42:28,710 --> 02:42:26,479
because

4210
02:42:31,110 --> 02:42:28,720
he once said something like don't just

4211
02:42:32,870 --> 02:42:31,120
listen to the stories become a part of

4212
02:42:35,269 --> 02:42:32,880
them and i went yeah you really can

4213
02:42:37,349 --> 02:42:35,279
become a part of these stories somehow i

4214
02:42:39,830 --> 02:42:37,359
started hearing about this anjali girl

4215
02:42:41,429 --> 02:42:39,840
and and now i'm part of the story so you

4216
02:42:44,389 --> 02:42:41,439
too could be get yourself a microphone a

4217
02:42:46,550 --> 02:42:44,399
webcam start a podcast it's an amazing

4218
02:42:49,510 --> 02:42:46,560
adventure the likes of which you have

4219
02:42:51,030 --> 02:42:49,520
never experienced in your show before

4220
02:42:52,469 --> 02:42:51,040
uh

4221
02:42:55,030 --> 02:42:52,479
that girl jessica said that she was

4222
02:42:56,630 --> 02:42:55,040
getting uh she was getting i think she

4223
02:42:59,670 --> 02:42:56,640
was getting tired so we didn't want to

4224
02:43:01,670 --> 02:42:59,680
keep pushing her that girl jessica

4225
02:43:03,670 --> 02:43:01,680
v says i was kind and respectful yeah i

4226
02:43:05,510 --> 02:43:03,680
hope that people you know

4227
02:43:07,190 --> 02:43:05,520
one thing that upset me v is not that

4228
02:43:10,389 --> 02:43:07,200
people had a perception that i was going

4229
02:43:13,110 --> 02:43:10,399
to be nasty or argumentative or

4230
02:43:15,110 --> 02:43:13,120
humiliate her is that people really

4231
02:43:17,030 --> 02:43:15,120
didn't know they haven't watched my

4232
02:43:17,830 --> 02:43:17,040
interviews to know that i wouldn't be

4233
02:43:22,150 --> 02:43:17,840
that

4234
02:43:24,389 --> 02:43:22,160
i'm always respectful i may ask

4235
02:43:26,150 --> 02:43:24,399
questions that a guest doesn't like i

4236
02:43:27,990 --> 02:43:26,160
may check them when they're lying or

4237
02:43:29,590 --> 02:43:28,000
when i believe they're lying or whatever

4238
02:43:31,830 --> 02:43:29,600
but i'm going to be respectful and i

4239
02:43:34,230 --> 02:43:31,840
hope for future guest reference you can

4240
02:43:37,030 --> 02:43:34,240
i can use today as a shining example of

4241
02:43:39,510 --> 02:43:37,040
how one of these woo people can have

4242
02:43:42,309 --> 02:43:39,520
courage and let somebody offer them

4243
02:43:43,110 --> 02:43:42,319
really hard questions probing questions

4244
02:43:45,429 --> 02:43:43,120
um

4245
02:43:46,710 --> 02:43:45,439
did did the best that i could with that

4246
02:43:49,990 --> 02:43:46,720
yeah i'm not

4247
02:43:52,309 --> 02:43:50,000
i'm not i'm not apologizing i'm uh i'm

4248
02:43:54,230 --> 02:43:52,319
working it out erica and thank you by

4249
02:43:56,870 --> 02:43:54,240
the way for your help all your help you

4250
02:43:59,750 --> 02:43:56,880
and scott brown and charlie wiser and

4251
02:44:01,429 --> 02:43:59,760
others uh who have really really done a

4252
02:44:03,990 --> 02:44:01,439
lot to make this it wouldn't have been

4253
02:44:07,269 --> 02:44:04,000
possible without the help of

4254
02:44:09,830 --> 02:44:07,279
many of these other people right

4255
02:44:11,830 --> 02:44:09,840
so i want to make sure that i

4256
02:44:13,510 --> 02:44:11,840
thank them and

4257
02:44:16,150 --> 02:44:13,520
yeah

4258
02:44:18,950 --> 02:44:16,160
make sure that i recognize them james a

4259
02:44:21,269 --> 02:44:18,960
conrad charlie weiser erica luke's

4260
02:44:24,150 --> 02:44:21,279
uh and scott brown and we have rich from

4261
02:44:26,070 --> 02:44:24,160
goof on alien addict as well

4262
02:44:27,590 --> 02:44:26,080
one thing we didn't get to but it's in

4263
02:44:29,510 --> 02:44:27,600
the description of the live chat if

4264
02:44:31,510 --> 02:44:29,520
you're interested in this story and this

4265
02:44:33,830 --> 02:44:31,520
is something that gives me pause but

4266
02:44:36,710 --> 02:44:33,840
somebody was on alien addict show a year

4267
02:44:38,950 --> 02:44:36,720
before her story telling a very very

4268
02:44:40,230 --> 02:44:38,960
strikingly similar story

4269
02:44:41,990 --> 02:44:40,240
which means

4270
02:44:44,389 --> 02:44:42,000
i don't know what that means but i just

4271
02:44:47,590 --> 02:44:44,399
found it interesting that somebody was

4272
02:44:49,910 --> 02:44:47,600
telling a virtual a very strikingly

4273
02:44:51,910 --> 02:44:49,920
similar story to this one

4274
02:44:53,269 --> 02:44:51,920
and so

4275
02:44:54,950 --> 02:44:53,279
what does that mean does it mean that

4276
02:44:56,150 --> 02:44:54,960
she copied her story i don't know does

4277
02:44:57,429 --> 02:44:56,160
that mean that

4278
02:44:59,830 --> 02:44:57,439
two people are having similar

4279
02:45:01,349 --> 02:44:59,840
experiences with alien bases inside

4280
02:45:03,110 --> 02:45:01,359
mountains so they're corroborating each

4281
02:45:04,790 --> 02:45:03,120
other's story i don't know but it's

4282
02:45:07,030 --> 02:45:04,800
worth listening to that interview and

4283
02:45:08,790 --> 02:45:07,040
exploring the possibilities

4284
02:45:10,150 --> 02:45:08,800
i'm very interested in the story we're

4285
02:45:12,630 --> 02:45:10,160
going to continue to cover here

4286
02:45:17,269 --> 02:45:12,640
especially

4287
02:45:19,349 --> 02:45:17,279
december comes and she does this

4288
02:45:20,389 --> 02:45:19,359
expedition we're going to do everything

4289
02:45:21,750 --> 02:45:20,399
we can

4290
02:45:23,510 --> 02:45:21,760
to

4291
02:45:25,510 --> 02:45:23,520
see if she's got the proof see if she's

4292
02:45:27,269 --> 02:45:25,520
got the evidence we're going to follow

4293
02:45:29,590 --> 02:45:27,279
the story

4294
02:45:31,190 --> 02:45:29,600
and may do future shows maybe even

4295
02:45:32,950 --> 02:45:31,200
including her if she's willing i'd be

4296
02:45:34,710 --> 02:45:32,960
more than willing uh if there's new

4297
02:45:35,830 --> 02:45:34,720
developments that are worthy of talking

4298
02:45:37,429 --> 02:45:35,840
about

4299
02:45:40,710 --> 02:45:37,439
um

4300
02:45:42,469 --> 02:45:40,720
so that's where we're at friends uh and

4301
02:45:44,309 --> 02:45:42,479
you know we're already at two hour 45

4302
02:45:47,110 --> 02:45:44,319
minutes so we are gonna definitely cut

4303
02:45:49,190 --> 02:45:47,120
this short i want to thank every uh well

4304
02:45:50,790 --> 02:45:49,200
it's not short

4305
02:45:52,630 --> 02:45:50,800
but i'm bouncing out of here i've got

4306
02:45:55,670 --> 02:45:52,640
some other things to do tonight

4307
02:45:58,309 --> 02:45:55,680
uh and i want to thank uh yeah the sixth

4308
02:46:01,349 --> 02:45:58,319
sense thank you all for participating

4309
02:46:03,269 --> 02:46:01,359
what an incredible uh evening that we

4310
02:46:05,830 --> 02:46:03,279
have had tonight highest

4311
02:46:08,230 --> 02:46:05,840
rated show on truth seekers ever over

4312
02:46:09,510 --> 02:46:08,240
450 people in the live chat to witness

4313
02:46:12,070 --> 02:46:09,520
this interview

4314
02:46:13,429 --> 02:46:12,080
i hope you all especially new people

4315
02:46:17,750 --> 02:46:13,439
please do

4316
02:46:19,910 --> 02:46:17,760
subscribe and share these videos it

4317
02:46:21,910 --> 02:46:19,920
really does help

4318
02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:21,920
hit that like button hit the unlike

4319
02:46:26,309 --> 02:46:24,080
button you give me a thumbs down it's

4320
02:46:27,590 --> 02:46:26,319
all engagement i really you know i don't

4321
02:46:29,190 --> 02:46:27,600
know

4322
02:46:30,870 --> 02:46:29,200
share this channel link on your social

4323
02:46:32,710 --> 02:46:30,880
media and

4324
02:46:34,710 --> 02:46:32,720
make sure that you

4325
02:46:37,269 --> 02:46:34,720
like comment and subscribe it really

4326
02:46:40,150 --> 02:46:37,279
does help the algorithm likes that so we

4327
02:46:42,870 --> 02:46:40,160
try to please the algorithm praise the

4328
02:46:44,630 --> 02:46:42,880
ai algorithm gods please find favor in

4329
02:46:46,950 --> 02:46:44,640
tonight's work and raise us in the

4330
02:46:49,190 --> 02:46:46,960
search engines please do not strike us

4331
02:46:50,870 --> 02:46:49,200
down if we say that that letter of the

4332
02:46:54,309 --> 02:46:50,880
alphabet you don't like or anything else

4333
02:46:56,389 --> 02:46:54,319
you don't like we pray for your favor

4334
02:46:59,030 --> 02:46:56,399
because we worship the google ai

4335
02:47:01,269 --> 02:46:59,040
algorithm gods in google's name we pray

4336
02:47:03,590 --> 02:47:01,279
amen there's my daily prayer to the

4337
02:47:06,070 --> 02:47:03,600
google ai algorithm god but you can help

4338
02:47:08,550 --> 02:47:06,080
us with the google ai algorithm god by

4339
02:47:10,230 --> 02:47:08,560
liking and sharing this video it really

4340
02:47:11,030 --> 02:47:10,240
really will help

4341
02:47:14,550 --> 02:47:11,040
uh

4342
02:47:15,750 --> 02:47:14,560
get us a bigger audience get us a bigger

4343
02:47:17,590 --> 02:47:15,760
um

4344
02:47:19,510 --> 02:47:17,600
bullhorn i would like a bullhorn

4345
02:47:22,230 --> 02:47:19,520
everybody wants a bigger bullhorn let's

4346
02:47:23,990 --> 02:47:22,240
get me one right and everybody uh that

4347
02:47:25,910 --> 02:47:24,000
girl jessica's here saying definitely we

4348
02:47:27,910 --> 02:47:25,920
all had fun in chat i'm glad that

4349
02:47:29,910 --> 02:47:27,920
everybody had a good time and you know

4350
02:47:31,349 --> 02:47:29,920
uh i'm glad that we could do this

4351
02:47:33,429 --> 02:47:31,359
because this is something that people

4352
02:47:35,670 --> 02:47:33,439
said that'll never happen never say

4353
02:47:37,269 --> 02:47:35,680
never friends and i think that we got a

4354
02:47:39,110 --> 02:47:37,279
good understanding

4355
02:47:40,950 --> 02:47:39,120
between her and i maybe we built some

4356
02:47:42,469 --> 02:47:40,960
rapport and now she knows that i'm going

4357
02:47:44,150 --> 02:47:42,479
to be respectful i'm not going to be

4358
02:47:46,309 --> 02:47:44,160
nasty so she'll maybe she'll feel more

4359
02:47:48,790 --> 02:47:46,319
comfortable with me in the future

4360
02:47:50,070 --> 02:47:48,800
stranger things has happened friends

4361
02:47:53,349 --> 02:47:50,080
so

4362
02:47:55,429 --> 02:47:53,359
that is where we are at friends uh

4363
02:47:57,269 --> 02:47:55,439
that's where we find ourselves here on

4364
02:47:59,510 --> 02:47:57,279
this strange journey so glad i could

4365
02:48:00,309 --> 02:47:59,520
take you with me on this journey that's

4366
02:48:02,389 --> 02:48:00,319
what

4367
02:48:04,150 --> 02:48:02,399
is so much fun about this i get to not

4368
02:48:06,309 --> 02:48:04,160
only do these things but i can bring you

4369
02:48:07,349 --> 02:48:06,319
all with me take you with me and you

4370
02:48:10,309 --> 02:48:07,359
guys get

4371
02:48:11,830 --> 02:48:10,319
to experience it as well

4372
02:48:13,510 --> 02:48:11,840
uh

4373
02:48:15,269 --> 02:48:13,520
yeah charlie wiser is reminding me that

4374
02:48:17,110 --> 02:48:15,279
i gave it a 50 50 chance of falling

4375
02:48:19,510 --> 02:48:17,120
through well she did recently no show on

4376
02:48:21,190 --> 02:48:19,520
a show at the last minute so i gave it a

4377
02:48:23,190 --> 02:48:21,200
50 50 of whether it was going to happen

4378
02:48:25,750 --> 02:48:23,200
and interestingly the show started at 9

4379
02:48:27,429 --> 02:48:25,760
00 p.m and it was like 903 and she still

4380
02:48:30,070 --> 02:48:27,439
wasn't here in the green room so i

4381
02:48:31,910 --> 02:48:30,080
thought this wasn't going to happen and

4382
02:48:33,910 --> 02:48:31,920
i was very disappointed i've never been

4383
02:48:35,990 --> 02:48:33,920
so happy to see somebody pop up on my

4384
02:48:38,150 --> 02:48:36,000
screen as being in the green room as i

4385
02:48:40,870 --> 02:48:38,160
was tonight and again we want to thank

4386
02:48:43,030 --> 02:48:40,880
our guest anjali i'll be providing links

4387
02:48:44,950 --> 02:48:43,040
to her projects on reddit and her

4388
02:48:47,269 --> 02:48:44,960
website i'm going to update the

4389
02:48:49,349 --> 02:48:47,279
description video as soon as we're off

4390
02:48:51,590 --> 02:48:49,359
air here

4391
02:48:53,590 --> 02:48:51,600
and william pixley i heard your question

4392
02:48:56,150 --> 02:48:53,600
about octorion's but she never mentioned

4393
02:48:58,790 --> 02:48:56,160
octorions as a race that she talked with

4394
02:49:01,590 --> 02:48:58,800
she mentioned tall whites grays and a

4395
02:49:03,429 --> 02:49:01,600
mantid being never octorians so i'm

4396
02:49:05,110 --> 02:49:03,439
sorry we had limited time i couldn't fit

4397
02:49:07,349 --> 02:49:05,120
everything in and i apologize to anybody

4398
02:49:10,150 --> 02:49:07,359
whose questions i could not get in did

4399
02:49:11,670 --> 02:49:10,160
the very best that i could um and that's

4400
02:49:13,269 --> 02:49:11,680
just the way that cookie crumbles

4401
02:49:16,710 --> 02:49:13,279
sometimes friends you only have so much

4402
02:49:19,590 --> 02:49:16,720
time here and so many uh you know at

4403
02:49:21,590 --> 02:49:19,600
bats and i swung for all i could tonight

4404
02:49:23,190 --> 02:49:21,600
and i and i hope you guys

4405
02:49:25,750 --> 02:49:23,200
um

4406
02:49:28,150 --> 02:49:25,760
i hope you guys uh acknowledge that or

4407
02:49:29,670 --> 02:49:28,160
appreciate that or just understand that

4408
02:49:31,429 --> 02:49:29,680
did the best i could

4409
02:49:33,670 --> 02:49:31,439
um and

4410
02:49:35,349 --> 02:49:33,680
thank you all for your participation i

4411
02:49:37,190 --> 02:49:35,359
always say this i'm always happy when

4412
02:49:40,230 --> 02:49:37,200
there's an audience friends

4413
02:49:42,710 --> 02:49:40,240
um and tonight we had the biggest and

4414
02:49:45,830 --> 02:49:42,720
probably best that we've ever had that

4415
02:49:48,469 --> 02:49:45,840
live chat was flying by so fast i got to

4416
02:49:50,309 --> 02:49:48,479
see how uh like huge shows deal with

4417
02:49:52,870 --> 02:49:50,319
things right because it's a lot harder

4418
02:49:54,550 --> 02:49:52,880
when that live chat is going

4419
02:49:56,550 --> 02:49:54,560
right

4420
02:49:59,110 --> 02:49:56,560
but thank you all for your participation

4421
02:50:02,230 --> 02:49:59,120
thank you for uh people for suggesting

4422
02:50:04,070 --> 02:50:02,240
that i look into this anjali or that i

4423
02:50:06,230 --> 02:50:04,080
research her

4424
02:50:07,590 --> 02:50:06,240
and do a deep dive and try to find more

4425
02:50:09,990 --> 02:50:07,600
evidence because it has been an

4426
02:50:11,910 --> 02:50:10,000
enjoyable experience doing so we're

4427
02:50:14,070 --> 02:50:11,920
going to continue to follow the story i

4428
02:50:15,830 --> 02:50:14,080
hope you will continue to follow us and

4429
02:50:18,230 --> 02:50:15,840
for people new to the channel i want to

4430
02:50:21,110 --> 02:50:18,240
mention that we cover all things strange

4431
02:50:23,190 --> 02:50:21,120
paranormal mysterious ufos cryptid

4432
02:50:25,590 --> 02:50:23,200
creatures all those kind of things but

4433
02:50:27,990 --> 02:50:25,600
we do do so with sort of a

4434
02:50:30,790 --> 02:50:28,000
tongue-in-cheek and somewhat somewhat

4435
02:50:32,469 --> 02:50:30,800
say very skeptical approach

4436
02:50:34,790 --> 02:50:32,479
but it's always fun and it's always a

4437
02:50:37,269 --> 02:50:34,800
good time that's our point here to have

4438
02:50:39,349 --> 02:50:37,279
a good time together and i sure had a

4439
02:50:40,710 --> 02:50:39,359
good time tonight and i hope you all did

4440
02:50:42,870 --> 02:50:40,720
too

4441
02:50:44,550 --> 02:50:42,880
so i want to once again finally thank my

4442
02:50:45,670 --> 02:50:44,560
guest anjali for having the courage to

4443
02:50:47,990 --> 02:50:45,680
do this people said it would never

4444
02:50:49,990 --> 02:50:48,000
happen and it did

4445
02:50:52,389 --> 02:50:50,000
until next time friends my name is

4446
02:50:56,340 --> 02:50:52,399
stephen cambion good night and god bless

4447
02:52:26,510 --> 02:51:47,320
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